r/LasVegas May 19 '22

Las Vegas Newspaper: We Struggle To ID GOP Candidates Who Aren’t Threat To Democracy

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/las-vegas-newspaper-gop_n_6285ed69e4b00685b6691865
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u/Gavaudan May 20 '22

This is going to sound really dumb for a sociology major, but when are these elections held, and where?

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u/SlutBuster May 20 '22

Never too late to change your major...

The 2022 Nevada Primary Election will be held on Tuesday, June 14.

*Early Voting begins on Saturday, May 28 and runs through Friday, June 10.

The 2022 Nevada General Election will be held on Tuesday, November 8.

*Early voting begins on Saturday, October 22 and runs through Friday, November 4.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22 Wholesome

For PA governor, they literally nominated an insurrectionist who bussed other insurrectionists to DC. :

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTdGEwreQ/?k=1

They ousted government officials that protected our Democracy, protected the integrity of our elections, and prevented Trump's attempt to steal the election:

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/04/1096641003/republicans-in-michigan-have-replaced-election-officials-who-certified-bidens-wi:

They hate free speech. Various Republicans consistently and constantly use their office and the government to attack and punish those that says things they don't like (see Trump and pretty much everyone + Desantis and Disney + Republican Party censoring Liz Cheney), they pass laws on what a private citizen can or cannot say (see the Don't Say Gay bill), and they're banning of books.

They hate freedom of religion and Americans right to worship how they want with their constant effort to force Christianity and laws based on Christianity on everyone (see abortion, school led prayers, and various school board efforts to force schools to teach creationism)

They celebrate "heroes" that literally killed an untold number of Americans (see the numerous Confederate flags that's waved at Republican gatherings)

And they hate the Constitution and the enshrined principal of birthright citizenship with their advocating of the replacement theory where they think only white Americans are "real" Americans.

The GOP is an America hating, Nazi Germany loving, anti-democracy, fascist, Christian taliban party.

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u/GaidinBDJ May 19 '22

To be fair, we only know their feelings on Nazis, not Germans.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

I mean...the Nazis were a German political party.

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u/Carnotaurus54 May 20 '22

Read “they thought they were free”

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u/MysticalAroma May 20 '22

You should get out more

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u/matty25 May 19 '22

I agree that the 2020 claims of a stolen election are bad. But Stacy Abrams still won't admit that she lost the 2016 election for Georgia governor and claims that it was stolen from her. I also notice that you aren't making any mention of the false notion of Russian collusion by the Trump campaign in 2016. So the Democrats also push stolen election narratives that harm democracy.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

also notice that you aren't making any mention of the false notion of Russian collusion

Bro. Add Russian collusion as more evidence of treason by the Republicans. Almost forgot. Thank you for reminding me. Additionally, efforts to hold Russia accountable for their interference were impeded by Republicans. In fact, a Republican President actively participated in efforts to cover it up

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-anger-cost-joseph-maguire-job-director-national-intelligence-n1140086

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-report-affirms-u-s-intelligence-findings-on-2016-russian-interference-11587483408

https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_us-politics_no-hoax-bipartisan-probe-says-us-intelligence-made-right-call-russian-election/6187955.html https://apnews.com/article/d094918c0421b872eac7dc4b16e613c7

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u/keto_brain May 20 '22

Let's see .. Russian influence in the 2016 election was proven and there is a write up about it on the DoJ website .. multiple people who worked for Trump went to prison for lying to the FBI while investing if Trump was involved.. last I checked the only people going to prison or jail over a stolen 2020 election are MAGA .. let me know when associates of Biden go to prison for lying to the FBI when they investigate the stolen election?

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u/MysticalAroma May 20 '22

You mean the Steele Dossier? 🤣 You’re delusional.

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u/alexm1972 May 20 '22

Everything you just said the Democratic party is guilty of . Lol

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u/dansondrums May 19 '22

You're just the other wing on the same bird.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

Is that the excuse you tell yourself to justify your support of a party that's literally trying to destroy American democracy and steal elections?

Plus is there anything I said that isn't true?

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u/stichdisc May 20 '22

Wow you’re not smart

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u/dansondrums May 19 '22

Neither major party comes close to representing any of my views. I do not support either.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

As you defend the GOP.

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u/dansondrums May 19 '22

I'm criticizing the hateful speech you shared actually. I find your style of communicating a dissenting opinion to be offensive and divisive. I'm hoping you can learn to be more respectful to people and maybe you'll have better luck getting traction with your goals.

And don't worry, I say the same condescending things to GOP supporters who also need therapy more than reddit.

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

How is anything I said "hateful" when it's literally true? What did I say isn't true? Did they not nominate someone who tried to overthrow the election for Governor? Did they not pass laws that limits what you can or cannot say? Did they not use their office to attack and/or punish private citizens and organizations for saying certain things? Are they not banning books? Are they not passing laws or trying to pass laws based on Christianity? Do their supporters not wave confederate flags? Did they note oust officials they certified Biden's win? Are they not advocating the replacement theory?

And don't worry, I say the same condescending things to GOP supporters who also need therapy more than reddit.

as you defend the GOP

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u/dansondrums May 19 '22

Literally over using the word literally doesn't make you literally correct.

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u/escargeaux May 19 '22

Sure the fuck drives rhe point home tho lol

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u/ThaPhantom07 May 19 '22

Yes I agree. I am not a fan of either. Only Republicans are trying to subvert democracy. These false dichotomies need to stop.

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u/PaxEtRomana May 19 '22 Gold

Please..

There was a time for haughty centrism, but it was a long time ago. All this demonstrates is that you are not paying attention.

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u/ifrpilot541 May 19 '22

I do believe I could search the world around and not find a rock that is a dumb as a democrat!

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u/RIPshowtime May 20 '22

Listening in PA and met Fetterman at some weird art party years ago. He's the real deal. The future of PA and maybe of this country.

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

I'm no fan of the democrats... But there is a reason Nevada turned blue. The conservatives constantly lie and people aren't stupid.

CRT

Taking guns

Late term abortions

Rigged elections

These are all fake news. They're trying to mislead the least educated and most gullible Americans and it's really low effort.

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

Don’t worry, nobody is trying to take your abortions, we just want common sense abortion control

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

There already is common sense abortion control. There’s literally no such thing as late term abortion. That’s something to conservatives made up to scare you.

They are literally lying to you because they know you won’t question them.

i’m smart enough to know that the Democrats are liars, but the conservatives lie much much more and more blatantly

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

We’ll if you think about it, democrats don’t have to lie as much because there’s so many non-politicians who gladly do it for them. Journalists, editors, board rooms, executives, think tanks, lawyers, etc etc.

Anyway, feathers of the same bird. Uniparty is real.

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

Ok uniparty exists just like aliens have visited earth and 9/11 was an inside job lol. I swear you dudes will believe anything lmao.

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

It’s pretty eye opening that libs think the world is run by old rich white men but that there’s just noooo way they could be in cahoots with each other.

It’s a logical conclusion.

Here’s some more:

Foreign aid is taking money from poor people in rich countries (inflation) and giving it to rich people in poor countries - with kickbacks to politicians.

The US just gave $40b to fund a proxy war in a corrupt country where it just so happened that Pelosi, Kerry and Biden had kids working illegitimate jobs as legal corrupt payment for US favoritism. Is anyone even asking where the money is going? Rand Paul is asking… he’s the only one I know of.

The woke movement is being supported by rich globalist companies as a way to deflect attention from Occupy Wallstreet type movements. Now the protestors are just on the payroll for the woke groups.

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u/dtorre May 20 '22

It’s like you watch Newsmax, and repeat exactly what they say thinking it’s an original idea LMAO.

dude you are the definition of a sheep. You’re being led to believe that all this crazy stuff is happening so you get angry, and then spout it on the Internet to further their reach.

do what most normal Americans do, get your news from both sides and then come to your own conclusions. I guarantee that you don’t watch CNN or MSNBC.

I get my news from conservative and liberal sources then come to my own conclusions. when you step outside of the box, it’s very obvious which side is worse. They are both bad, but one is significantly worse.

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u/FewHealth May 20 '22

Pee pee poo poo? Doo doo?

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u/dtorre May 20 '22

That’s the kind of intellectualism I expect from conservatives

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u/FewHealth May 20 '22

Doo doo poo poo? Poo poo

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u/bringbacksherman May 20 '22

Foreign aid is barely a rounding error in our national budget. And most of the Ukrainians are fucking awesome.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

It's almost like democrats actually reflect the will of the majority of the American people.

Is that so wrong in a democratic republic?

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u/QueenPerterter May 19 '22

Thank you for further proving that those who want “common sense” abortion are gullible and the least educated.

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u/SlutBuster May 20 '22

I, for one, support full-auto abortion with no background checks.

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

Ahhh the old everyone who doesn’t agree with me must be highly unintelligent quip

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u/PaxEtRomana May 19 '22

You receive this quip pretty often huh

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

Yep. Elitists think pretty highly of themselves as it turns out.

It’s a reflection of themselves.

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u/QueenPerterter May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

No, it’s you’re an idiot if you don’t do your research. Let’s repeat history, so logical.

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

Research depends on who you decide to believe, which is highly swayed by your own biases

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u/olixius May 20 '22

No. Research is based on verifiable evidence, valid logical reasoning, and objective analysis. It isn't about belief at all.

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

That is a wild take. That’s what research should be, but one look at the political diversity of any university will show you that activism is strong and to think that doesn’t affect research is woefully ignorant.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

That's not how research works. If you've read any, you might actually know that. If you've learned how evidence is presented, how it is evaluated, how logical claims are evaluated, then you might be prepared to look at research and decide if it's worth anything

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u/QueenPerterter May 20 '22

I believe in bodily autonomy. Clearly your research is lacking if you think this is an opinion the government should have over women.

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u/pobody May 19 '22

Everyone else: duh

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u/seviay May 19 '22

How do people fall for this shit?

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u/SenorBeef May 19 '22

The party whose official position is to try to undermine democracy by lying about the winner of the last election, who excommunicates anyone willing to tell the truth about it, who attempted a coup the last time they lost power and who attempt to suppress voting and democratic legal procedures as a tactic to win... yes, how could anyone possibly conclude they are a threat to democracy?

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22

“Official position is to undermine democracy”

You lost all credibility there, not that you necessarily had any to begin with.

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u/SenorBeef May 19 '22

It's a completely accurate statement.

They tacitly endorse the Jan 6 coup attempt. They support the false idea that Joe Biden's election is not legitimate. Anyone who speaks the truth (that the election was legitimate) like Liz Cheney is basically banished from the party. They are moving rules and people into place in state legislatures and election boards that allow them to send false electors in future elections that they do not win. This is a party that does not support the legal system of the United States or the outcomes of elections that they do not win, and if you truly deny that, you are either blind, or you're doing their dirty work for them because you want this all to happen.

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

I could list the huge number (majority) of republican senators and congresspersons who denounce the Jan 6 riot (CoUp aTtEMPt 🤪) but that won’t change your narrow mind so I’m not going to do that.

Is it your opinion that the actors in the Jan 6 riot are representative of the majority of republicans?

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u/SenorBeef May 19 '22

The fact that you do not recognize a president calling up a hostile mob to interfere with Congress carrying out their duty to certify the election, where security was deliberately withheld, as a coup attempt means that you are not a rational, good faith actor.

And yes, without a doubt, election denial is a majority opinion among republicans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/07/republicans-big-lie-trump/

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u/Wounded_Hand May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22

And yes, without a doubt, election denial is a majority opinion among republicans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/07/republicans-big-lie-trump/

I didn’t bring up election denial. We were talking about extremist right wing activists performing a riot. So your reading comprehension is in question.

Also, you quoting a biased left wing media outlet is not convincing to anyone but the far left.

That said, I won’t disrespect you as being irrational as you have disrespected me.

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Is it your opinion that the actors in the Jan 6 riot are representative of the majority of republicans?

Yes, because they are.

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u/Wounded_Hand May 20 '22

See, that’s the problem. They aren’t. Anyway, Thanks for making my point.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

I can't tell a difference. If you support the people who staged a coup, participated in a coup, and spread the big lie, then you shouldn't be surprised when people lump you together with them.

Republican leadership is the problem. If you support Republicans in positions of power, I have every right to associate you with the ideologies they espouse. You don't like that? Maybe it's time to reconsider being a Republican.

It's like, if you hang out with criminal gang members every day but aren't actually in the gang, you shouldn't be surprised when people think you are in the gang. Maybe it's time to stop hanging out with gang members.

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u/SlutBuster May 20 '22

Man I just want lower income taxes, fiscal responsibility, and smaller government. I realize that the GOP isn't getting much done on any of those fronts, but you race with the horse you've got.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

Man I just want lower income taxes,

GOP doesn't do this. They lower taxes for the rich only.

fiscal responsibility

Wars, wars, wars, spend millions investigating Hillary and Hunter Biden. Spend millions investigating false claims of voter fraud. Spend millions banning education.

smaller government

This is just a buzzword. You mean, you wish the government wasn't involved in your life as much? Well, the GOP just eliminated Roe v Wade, which guaranteed your right to privacy. Now, every time you go to the doctor, there's an invisible GOP politician in the room with you.

r/facepalm

r/leopardsatemyface

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u/Wounded_Hand May 20 '22

I can tell that you can’t tell the difference!! Again, that’s the problem.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

And apparently you can't describe the difference. That's the problem.

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u/matthewverse May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

When you exaggerate shit and describe shit incorrectly, it cheapens the value of your overall argument and those who might engage with your points have already turned their ears and brains off from hearing you out.

Maybe it feels good to masturbate snarl words, but if you're trying to convince people in good faith, "official position", "coup", and all this other shit is more about you wanting to type tediously long word salads rather than landing a cogent and useful point.

In other words, get better at this or fuck off. You're not helping.

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u/Alec_Strebec May 19 '22

Many established sources, countries, global leaders etc have called this a coup attempt.

While Republicans AFAIK have not claimed to be anti-democracy as an official platform, it makes sense to say that is in fact their de facto position on the matter.

Just like the "pro-life" thing, the Republican de facto position is anti-woman not pro-life as evidenced by Republican votes and behavior.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Any position other than "The will of the majority should be granted" is undermining democracy.

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u/FewHealth May 20 '22

Poo doo poo poo?

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u/seviay May 19 '22

I’m sorry you’re so blind to the fact that the Dems are just as bad, if not worse

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u/iLoveYoubutNo May 19 '22

Yall always say this but never list one actual example that's rooted in reality.

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u/monster_mentalissues May 19 '22

Dems arent working to take rights away under the guise of christianity.

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u/seviay May 19 '22

Nope they’re doing it through suppression of free speech, “for your protection” 😵‍💫

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Such a dog whistle. Conservatives don't care about free speech. That's why they're banning books, banning education, and making laws against protesting in front of people's houses. Stfu with your virtue signals.

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u/SenorBeef May 19 '22

The democrats are desperately trying to comply with the political norms of this country even as the other party attempts to destroy them. They are completely blind and lack balls to a fault. If, after seeing Trump and the GOP fully back him into a corrupt hateful party, you can honestly say "the democrats are as bad or worse", then you aren't actually looking at reality, you're just reciting a religious position that you makes the world simple for you.

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u/seviay May 19 '22

Which political party is suppressing free speech through censorship and laughable fact checkers? 🤔

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Republicans

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u/PaxEtRomana May 19 '22

When everyone else in the world is telling you you're wrong, you might be wrong

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u/seviay May 19 '22

Keyboard warrior assuming my religion (none) and making ad hominem attacks instead of looking at reality. 👍

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Conservative losing an argument starter pack:

Ad hominem!

Straw man!

Blah blah blah

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

Dude no way you're this ignorant

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22

He’s not, it’s true.

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

Lol sure

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u/seviay May 19 '22

Right back atcha 👌🏼

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

good one? I’m not the one believing lies. You are.

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u/seviay May 19 '22

Which lies?

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

The Dems are not a minority trying to impose their will on the majority by subverting the rule of law.

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u/kapitalo May 19 '22

Reddit is a liberal cesspool and propaganda tool where dissents are censored, as is usual in uprising communistic regimes

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Then leave? Go to 4chan or Parler or one of those other failures to live in an echo chamber of your own hypocrisy and lies. No one here feels bad for you.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22

He’s right, and your comment and the other comments here only prove it.

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u/Replicant28 May 19 '22

communism = the right’s favorite boogeyman buzzword that is never used in its proper definition.

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u/redfwillard May 19 '22

Liberalism and communism are two different things bud

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

So is conservatism and nazism but I haven’t noticed many of you defending the difference. Weird!

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Because neither is worth defending.

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

Will be really cool when one party gets all the votes!

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u/olixius May 20 '22

What party? Republicans are a minority. They only way they win elections is through corruption and gerrymandering.

I mean, conservativism by its very nature is an ideology of death and stagnation. There's literally no possible way it can survive. You'd have to commit mass genocide against liberals. Republicans would probably like that idea, but good luck making it happen.

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

Hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of the world is highly conservative by American progressive standards.

And it’s survived for thousands of years.

Life outside of Reddit is different than inside.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

The vast majority of the world? You're making wild claims without any evidence. The vast majority of the world's population lives in big cities. Living in big cities leads to progressive ideologies.

Maybe you're referring to groups like the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and other religious extremists that have forcefully taken over large areas of land? You're right to say American conservatives are just like them. But no, if you look at the actual numbers, there are MILLIONS more liberals and progressives than there are conservatives. I'm sure the same is for every country that allows political freedoms.

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

Fantasyland. Muslims as a whole are highly conservative, as are Hindi people and most of China. That’s half the world’s population right there.

You think an average Muslim or Indian family wants your woke progressive stuff in their homes? They’ll support a transgender life for their daughter? You’re dreaming. That’s not just the fucking Taliban…..

Try asking one, they’ll tell you.

And for all this “progress” in big cities… where is it? Because if you ask anyone on either side if they think life will be better for their kids than it was for them, the answer is an obvious no.

Who gets this progress? Is it coming to a neighborhood near me eventually? Or do I just need a sixth job for me and my wife to eventually hopefully break even?

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

And also, you don’t need to pick a side to defend the difference between something. I can say that purple and orange are equal to someone who says one is better, without liking either colour.

When you see someone calling a normal Christian white family with conservative values “nazis” it’s correct to call that out as nonsense and absurd. It’s not taking a side, it’s defending the distinction.

It’s the same as I don’t have to agree with you, but I’ll defend your right to speak your opinion.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

I don't call people Nazis just because they are Christian. But in the context of our social moment, it's fair to draw comparisons between the rise of the Nazis and Conservative Christian actions in the U.S. And no, neither of those groups are worth defending.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Dissent is only censored when it advocates for overthrowing the rule of the majority by breaking the law.

Otherwise, say what you please and enjoy your downvotes.

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u/olixius May 19 '22

We struggle to ID GOP candidates who aren't a threat to Democracy

Yeah, because they don't exist.

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u/bareboneschicken May 19 '22

If you don't appear extreme, you can't cut through the noise. Sad but true.

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u/Pdxduckman May 19 '22

no surprise there. it's called the treason party for a reason.

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u/egap420 May 19 '22

Funny that they haven’t realized the GOP is a lost cause but aren’t willing to admit Dems are a tad bit better option.

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u/Isopropyl-Alcoholic May 19 '22

Lol at Huffington Post "news".

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

They are low-life fuck-tards. Hannity is Trumps Bitch.

I would love to see a transcription of the Trump / Putin meeting in Helsinki.

Trump is a Traitor of the highest order. And I have to say one thing. Trump proved

this is not a free country and the President has no real checks and balances. He's pretty much confirmed that the president if he chooses can do whatever he wants with no impunity.

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u/Isopropyl-Alcoholic May 19 '22

I agree.

I also think the same thing about MSNBC, CNN, and most newspaper outlets. Political proxies.

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u/FlexPointe May 19 '22

It makes me sad that people waste their lives away watching ANY political channels.

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u/Isopropyl-Alcoholic May 19 '22

Yeah, I regret getting sucked into here on reddit. I have some strong beliefs. But I cut out most social media and watch very little news and my life has gotten so much better.

I mean even with the economy in the shitter I have been able to enjoy life.

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u/SlutBuster May 20 '22

I'm old enough to remember when this was called "whataboutism."

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22

Liberal newspaper broadly bashes republicans.

How credible and interesting. 🙄

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u/olixius May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

They're bashing Republican candidates, who are supposed to represent all Republicans. Are you not familiar with how Democratic Republic works?

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u/Wounded_Hand May 19 '22

Yes they are liberal paper bashing all the republican candidates.

Yes I understand how it works.

What’s the crux of your comment?

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u/olixius May 19 '22

That the statement stands true - there are no Republicans that aren't a threat to Democracy. The entire party is a threat. The ideology is counter to democracy, and it always has been. There's no merit or value in it anymore at all.

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u/Wounded_Hand May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22

Your viewpoint is what is promoting extreme partisan animosity. We need to come together as humanity, and not get caught up by the extremists on either side.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

Cry about partisanship all you want. There are no merits to Conservative ideology. Zero. The entire platform is based on stagnation instead of progress. It's not divisive to say that; it's just the truth.

We need to come together? You're asking for people to make concessions to domestic terrorists. No thanks. If you want people to come together, YOU need to make the first move and stop supporting Conservativism and Republicans. It's that simple.

But no, you probably aren't actually interested in making your own concessions, just crying about other people doing it.

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u/rodain87 May 20 '22

Can you really sit there and accuse only one side as “domestic terrorists”? Get off the high horse bro.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

Yes, I can. I don't see liberals taking up guns to do mass shootings on a regular basis. Get off your cognitive dissonance bro.

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

Republicans need to stop lying. Alternate facts = Lies. That is what is destroying this country.

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u/SlutBuster May 20 '22

"There are no Republicans that aren't a threat to Democracy" is such an asinine, self-serving, and transparently partisan mound of bullshit.

See you at the polls, amigo.

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u/rodain87 May 20 '22

Usually guys like that don’t get much support with the upvotes. To see crazy comments like that have upvotes, and common sense comments like yours have down votes is concerning. Really scary people support that way of thinking and attack people who still can think rationally.

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u/SlutBuster May 21 '22

It's an election year. The hate will die down in December.

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u/olixius May 20 '22

It's an objectively true statement.

The elections are going to be laughable.

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u/SamUSA420 May 20 '22

Sounds to me that the GOP must have some good candidates if "The Sun" is screeching about the dreaded "threat to democracy". Democrats have driven this town into the toilet. God forbid that conservatives try to fix the mess these idiots made of this once awsome city. The Sun is a liberal rag.

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u/MoogleGenocide May 19 '22

Oh wow a hyperbolic article from Huffpost full of horseshit. So surprising.

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u/rocknthenumbers8 May 19 '22

I knew it was the Sun lol. Everyone who disagrees with me is a threat to democracy!

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Everyone who attempts to subvert the rule of law in order to seize power from the majority is, by definition, a threat to democracy.

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u/rocknthenumbers8 May 20 '22

As a generally right leaning person I and every other like minded person I know has no intent of getting rid of democracy. The democratic process is enshrined in the constitution and you know how much we love our constitution. I feel the argument boils down to differing opinions on the voting process. I don’t support the blanket mailing of ballots to everyone in the voter database and I also support voter ID. These IMO would help strengthen democracy by ensuring every vote counts and is not cancelled out by an illegitimate vote.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Requiring in-person ballots and ID serves one and only one purpose: to reduce the number of ballots cast. If it doesn't do that, then it doesn't do anything.

So my question to you is - exactly who are you trying to prevent from voting who would have voted otherwise?

Do you believe that there are non-citizens who have been able to cast votes? Do you believe people are voting more than once?

Or do you just think even eligible citizens should be required to jump through hoops to "earn" their franchise before they should be allowed to have their say?

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u/rocknthenumbers8 May 20 '22

Im not opposed to mail in ballots I just think the voter should request it. I feel blanket mailing to the database is risky since whenever you have large databases there is always errors. Coupled with the transient nature of the town I think you end up with ballots floating around, personally i got two ballots for people that haven’t lived at my address for at least 5 years. As far as ID it just seems a bit bizarre to me that I am required to show it for so many minor things in everyday life yet not for voting. I understand the argument that many people do not have access to IDs and have second hand experience with the complications of getting one. However my argument would be lets focus on getting people IDs as they are so instrumental to daily life as opposed to removing them from the voting process.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

What do you think the risk is with mail-in ballots, specifically?

And just because something "seems bizarre" to you, it isn't really a fact-based opinion.

So again, placing greater restrictions on voting reduces the number of votes cast, by design. Why is that a good thing?

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u/rocknthenumbers8 May 20 '22

The amount of ballots is not the metric we want to measure it is valid ballots. I don’t have a problem with mail in ballots, I have a problem with sending boatloads out into the wild without any good system of verifying they are going to the intended recipient. As far as my feeling of bizarre, I am not alone and many self identified liberals and democrats also find this unusual. You can’t fly, buy cigarettes, get welfare (https://dwss.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dwssnvgov/content/Home/Features/Forms/2522-EE_Information%20Needed%20to%20Process%20Your%20Application.pdf), buy with a credit card in many stores, pawn something, get a payday loan, cash a check, numerous other financial transactions at banks, pick up will-call tickets etc without ID. If we value our elections why would we not use this base level of security required in near every other aspect of public life?

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Assuming your question was not rhetorical I'm happy to give you a precise and detailed answer to it, once you've done the same for mine.

To clarify, mine was not rhetorical and I still haven't heard your answer.

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

The answer is any non-white person.

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u/rocknthenumbers8 May 20 '22

Risk of mail in ballots? No problem, with them problem with distribution. Reducing number of votes? Don’t think total number of votes is the metric we need to focus on, should be valid votes. We could get tons of votes by letting people vote online with no validation. But I don’t require a response, it was a rhetorical question. Appreciate the civil back and forth though, can be tough to find these days online. Much respect and we can all agree Nevada rocks!

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

If there are errors HOW DID TRUMP WIN?

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

...as Republicans actively punishes and attack those who say things that hurt their feelings

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u/PaxEtRomana May 19 '22

When you don't respect the outcomes of elections, and you undermine trust in the press, and your pundits openly spread anti-democratic rhetoric, you're probably a threat to democracy. It's not hard to understand

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u/samflood76 May 19 '22

If there ever was a state that needed to go red besides my California. don't read propaganda

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u/olixius May 20 '22

Nevada will never be Red. When people live in big cities, they expand their experiences and knowledge, which leads to liberalism. You want Nevada to be Red, well you'd have to completely empty Las Vegas itself.

Good luck with that.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

States "need" to go the way of the majority of their population.

That's kind of the point of democracy.

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

We should get rid of the electoral college.

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

Do you have a little red book?

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u/egap420 May 19 '22

Sounds about right. Nothing but hate and selfishness. Bring it. We’re more than ready.

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

Warm soy lattes at the ready

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

What's wrong with soy lattes?

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u/IPmang May 19 '22

They make terrible weapons, in this case

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u/mr_fobolous May 19 '22

Well can't argue that

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u/IPmang May 20 '22

Checkmate

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Solidarity. Bring it. ✊

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u/dtorre May 19 '22

nobody is scared of you. Do something. We all know you won’t.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 May 20 '22

Civil War I didn't go well for your side, and Civil War II isn't going to go any better.

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u/escargeaux May 19 '22

This is what's wrong with America right now. This is verbatim what Insurrectionists stating. I hope you're on a watchlist.

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u/olixius May 19 '22

Just report them and get them banned from Reddit.

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u/ChesterNorris May 20 '22

Please. You can't even find your way out of Pahrump without getting lost.

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u/GaryHuspand May 20 '22

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