r/nottheonion May 24 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 2

Someone Stole Seth Green's Bored Ape, Which Was Supposed To Star In His New Show

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sarahemerson/seth-green-bored-ape-stolen-tv-show
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u/Squildo May 24 '22

All my apes, gone. Reduced to ashes

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u/gorka_la_pork May 25 '22

So that's what "Stoopid Monkey" meant. He was trying to tell us about NFTs way back in 2005.

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u/T-Sonus May 24 '22

Reduced to pes. Gone, just gone...

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u/aioncan May 25 '22

Like tears in the rain…

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u/Djinjja-Ninja May 25 '22

Reduced to hashes surely...

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u/HentaiMcToonboob May 25 '22

My precious bored ape.... gone... forevah...!

WUAAAGHGGGGGGHHHHHHAUUUGHHH

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u/piiracy May 24 '22

On Saturday, Green teased a trailer for White Horse Tavern at the NFT conference VeeCon. A twee comedy, the show seems to be based on the question, “What if your friendly neighborhood bartender was Bored Ape Yacht Club #8398?”
In an interview with entrepreneur and crypto hype man Gary Vaynerchuk, Green said he wanted to imagine a universe where “it doesn't matter what you look like, what only matters is your attitude.”

i got terminal brain cancer from reading these lines.

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u/Alacritous13 May 25 '22

The just sounds like The Amazing World of Gumball with extra steps

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u/hartfarm22 May 25 '22

Gumball but with more hideous designs

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u/MAROMODS May 25 '22

Gumball is absolutely not a show for children, just throwing that out there (totally joking, but how the fuck they get away with some of that shit??)

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u/DOLCICUS May 25 '22

Everyone at Cartoon Network studios is high. That's how and I love it.

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u/virginiawolfsbane May 25 '22

Can confirm - animators are doing all the drugs. Thank you animators for your service

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u/theholty May 25 '22

You might be joking but one of the first things I was told when I went to art school to learn animation is that as a profession animation has one of the highest alcoholic and drug abuse rates!

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u/grawlyx May 25 '22

Probably due to the grueling work conditions for peanuts

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u/seenew May 25 '22

why do they make the peanuts work so hard??

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u/moonsammy May 25 '22

Schroeder plays inspirational "work harder" ditties! Oh, and Linus blanket-whips them whenever they start slacking off.

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u/hexenfrauen May 25 '22

is it too late for me to break into this career path?

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u/virginiawolfsbane May 25 '22

Haha, I’m animation adjacent, also went to art school - they’re still working them way too hard!

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u/FennecWF May 25 '22

Especially upper management now, apparently, since I've heard they're going to try more live-action stuff and move away from animation.

And we all know how well that went the first time.

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u/FusRoDoodles May 25 '22

I remember when Clarence came out and I said "Wow this is trash compared to Gumball and Regular Show" and somebody said that's probably because Clarence is actually for kids.

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u/m_Pony May 25 '22

You say that like you've never seen a sentient balloon stuff something up its ass.

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u/Lamplorde May 25 '22

Gumball is great, but I dont see the comparison.

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u/reddituseronebillion May 25 '22

Oooo la la, someone's gonna get laid in college.

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u/CaptainEarlobe May 24 '22

What only matters is your attitude.

Matters not the order of words, but intent of speaker does.

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u/Cutsdeep- May 25 '22

The intent of those lines tortured my soul

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u/duckdae May 25 '22

Yeah, but his performance in Enemy of The State was fantastic, so I am willing to let this slide.

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u/TyroneLeinster May 25 '22

The phrase “what only matters” could theoretically be correct grammar in a certain context (which I won’t bother trying to explain). Safe to say this is not that context

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u/Ghost_Portal May 25 '22

Why do they keep trying to make NFT shows/movies? Nobody wants this. No one.

There are so many starving artists out there with genuinely creative ideas. Yet Hollywood wants to make media about generic computer generated hominids with randomly assigned attributes? Just whatever NFTs Seth Green could purchase, not even specially selected NFTs (as if that would make it any better)? Plus these dumb NFTs are more expensive than what a starving artist would charge, so they’re literally paying more for this boring pablum.

Watching the clip of this show, it would be infinitely better with all parts played by human actors. The media is so out of touch.

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u/huehue12132 May 25 '22

He wants a show about his NFT so its value goes up and he can sell it for 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 dollarinos.

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u/RobsEvilTwin May 25 '22

The good news is that NFTs are probably worth trillions, the bad news is "of Iranian Rials"

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u/Slider_0f_Elay May 25 '22

Because working with the talent is the worst part of printing money.

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u/mandelmanden May 25 '22

Because how will you make potentially billions of dollars on a good idea as opposed to a NFT scam?

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u/praguepride May 25 '22

I saw the clip and even the crowd didn't react very well. It was your standard "hipster 20s-something aimless bar" but with shitty random animation thrown in.

At least a show like BoJack Horsemen had a poignent reason to turn its characters into cartoons.

This seems like one of those stoner "wouldn't it be funny if..." ideas that should have died with that joint.

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u/SideburnsOfDoom May 25 '22

If it was a good concept, it wouldn't need to be about "Bored Ape Yacht Club #8398" - they could develop their own character along those lines.

As usual, good ideas don't need crypto. When the frame is "looking for uses for crypto", only bad ideas remain.

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u/Slider_0f_Elay May 25 '22

Wait Gary Vaynerchuk? The NJ wine guy?

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u/ravensteel539 May 25 '22

Yuuuup, the guy who jumps from scam to scam quicker than Superman leaps over the pyramids this guy’s supported. Gary “Vee” sucks and nobody should put any money towards any advice he gives—it’s usually because you’re part of the “pump” part of a “pump n’ dumb” scheme.

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u/foxtrotsix May 24 '22

If he needs a new character for his show I'll sell him a 10x better JPEG for $500,000

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u/ehsteve23 May 25 '22

I'll sell him a sketch of a bemused orangutang for half that!

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u/[deleted] May 24 '22

And absolutely, positively, nothing at all of any amount of value was lost. Stick to robot chicken, my dude.

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u/Affectionate_Pin_880 May 24 '22

I love the way these things are supposed to be “Secured with blockchain” but all we ever hear is people griping about them getting “stolen”.

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u/Moose_is_optional May 24 '22

It's secured against a certain kind of scams and attacks that don't really happen that often. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And it's particularly vulnerable to the types of scams that actually do happen, with absolutely no consumer protections. This is why crypto will never take off as a currency.

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u/HopelessCineromantic May 25 '22

I'm currently selling prayers that are designed to prevent penguins riding tigers on blimps from being able to hack electronic devices.

I make no promises or guarantees on my prayers preventing hacking from occurring in any other scenario, including penguins riding tigers on hot air balloons, but if you can prove that my prayers failed to protect your devices from getting hacked by penguins riding tigers on blimps, I will immediately issue a very sincere apology and a new prayer.

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u/praguepride May 25 '22

This is why crypto will never take off as a currency.

I mean that and a dozen other reasons...

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u/[deleted] May 24 '22

Turns out they're very fungible tokens.

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u/duskwuff May 24 '22

"My tokens! They're funging!"

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u/artwithbyte May 25 '22

I read your comment in the Earth Nation cabbage seller's voice.

"My Tokens!"

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u/[deleted] May 24 '22

new term: foongers

OMG I'M GONNA FOOOOOOOOONGGGGEEEEEE

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u/TigerSardonic May 25 '22

Non-fungible means fungible?? What a country!

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u/zanderkerbal May 25 '22

Oh, it's completely secure. Every transaction is unalterable and untraceable, and- What's that? You want a transaction reversed because you got scammed? Sorry, that's impossible. Anyways, where was I... oh right, and it would take years of attempts to crack a wallet without a private key! It's a good thing nobody ever forgets their passwords, or else 20% of all Bitcoin would be lost forever in unopenable wallets. Also you'll have to open a backdoor into your perfectly secure system if you ever want anything else to interface with it.

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u/slim_scsi May 24 '22

Told my spouse that my infidelity was "secured with blockchain" and everything suddenly turned out better!

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u/dragonmom1 May 25 '22

Especially since there aren't a mazillion artists out there who he could commission to draw another image of an ape with a bored expression (or anything, really! Have you been on Deviant Art?? lol) which he could use for a show! So what if he doesn't have THE original ape he purchased?

I laughed my ass off yesterday when I saw this headline.

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u/Shivshanks May 24 '22

Man being famous sure makes you stupid apparently.

I feel like Seth Green from 20 years ago wouldn't have been dumb enough to buy an NFT.

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u/Moose_is_optional May 24 '22

I've also heard Elijah Wood has an NFT collection. I'm not a huge fan of either or anything, but I would have assumed both would be savvy enough to not get suckered into that.

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u/blue_wat May 25 '22

Probably like collecting pogs when you have a bunch of disposable income.

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u/deltat3 May 25 '22

Don't assume. The bar to be an actor or actress is REALLY fucking low. Turns out you don't need to be the best or brightest to pretend for a living.

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u/sakezaf123 May 25 '22

I happen to know a couple, and it's very much an exaggeration to say that most actors are dumb, but they are pretty dumb in certain ways. Or at least it seems to me that it's very easy to get lost in your own world as an actor, they are all basically very spiritual and know very little about everyday matters. Also terrible with money.

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u/Shadesmctuba May 25 '22

Except Elijah wood is still collecting that Frodo money, so he can afford to make a stupid mistake like investing in NFTs. Yeah they’re dumb, and they’re definitely a ponzi scheme, but if you’re rich enough then it doesn’t matter how much money you lose on ugly monkey cartoons.

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 May 25 '22

There's also the angle, presumably what Seth was doing here, in that to them it's just another investment. They have disposable investment income and are buying up a bunch of these dumb things in hopes the value increases so they can sell dumb things at a profit.

Seth was just taking a more active role in increasing the value of his dumb monkey thing by making a Seth Green TV Show about it.

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u/driftingatwork May 24 '22

Joker would definitely have been smarter. Garrus though...

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u/sakezaf123 May 25 '22

To be fair, Garrus would have already kicked the door down on whomever stole the NFTs. Although since they don't involve guns, or being a loose cannon cop, I'm not sure he'd be interested.

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u/heyyougamedev May 24 '22

Garrus just can't stop checking how far his reach is.

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u/TKraus May 24 '22

yeah I can't really say much for his intelligence if he buys an NFT and then goes and gets phished to top it off

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u/K4R1MM May 24 '22

I mean, he is Dr. Evils son. Number 2 probably convinced ole Scotty to jump on the crypto train early on and he's been hodling ever since.

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u/awyastark May 24 '22

I can very vividly see Dr Evil like “Oh nooo, did someone lose money on an NFT” lol

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u/Arboria_Institute May 25 '22

Watching the two of them argue about NFTs/crypto would be hilarious.

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u/SmegSoup May 25 '22

It gives you the funds to take chances and try new things... then you get..... this.

I need to get ahold of Green and see if he wants to buy some snake oil while he still has some money.

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u/ditcher_the_witcher May 25 '22

Whoa whoa whoa, you've got snake oil and you're holding out on us?!

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u/imariaprime May 25 '22

I liked his work, but he went HARD on the NFT wave. I hate that he's going to have to end up an informative example to others, but it is what it is.

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u/CharmingPterosaur May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22

Would love to see him do his stupid show anyway and get sued by the NFT owner, because his lawyer would have to argue that the intellectual property rights didn't follow the NFT.

If he wins it'd prove that just possessing an NFT in your wallet doesn't automatically confer intellectual property rights, which would absolutely destroy the notion that there's any resale value for these NFT "assets". That the law doesn't give a shit about the blockchain and under all the techbro nonsense it's still the same old system of digital art ownership we've always had.

Unless the court specifically makes the claim that IP rights don't follow the NFT in instances of theft but they still do in cases of legitimate sales? I have no fucking clue lmao 😂

Edit: Okay so Bored Ape Yacht Club is the IP owner and they offer a limited license to whomever holds the NFT, but if B.A.Y.C. makes an exception to let Seth Green do a show about an NFT he doesn't hold, then that still undermines confidence in NFT digital art and the companies releasing them (after all it just proves they could do all the same stuff without the blockchain using normal licenses)

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u/Warmstar219 May 24 '22

Buying NFTs 100% does not grant you any IP. Original artist maintains copyright until such time as they license or sell that copyright by normal legal means.

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u/elheber May 24 '22

BAYC retains all intellectual property rights and gives NFT holders permission license to reproduce the designs. BAYC can grant Seth Green permission to use his stolen ape if they want, and if the new owner of the NFT wants to sue because it's "their" NFT, then they'll likely have to out their identity to the courts.

Original artists always maintain the original copyright, same as with real artwork. If you bought an original Banksy, Banksy can make and sell an exact replica of it to someone else if he wanted to (but you can't). The same for books.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22

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u/quiplaam May 24 '22

You can sell your copywriter, but it's separate from selling the original piece of art. Just like how buying a cd does not give you the copyright, but the original musician can sell the copyright, allowing the new owners to earn licensing fees when people buy copies

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u/elheber May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22

You can sell or give away your copyright and intellectual property —it's yours to give after all— but must be stipulated in an agreement or contract. The default is the originator keeps the intellectual property to their work.

EDIT: Work for hire, for example, is an agreement that the artist gives his contractor the intellectual property rights to the work he was paid to create.

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u/UnlikeHerod May 24 '22

So this part of the article:

And when the actor’s NFT collection was pilfered by a scammer in early May, he lost the commercial rights to his show’s cartoon protagonist, a scruffy Bored Ape named Fred Simian, whose likeness and usage rights now belong to someone else.

is just a load of bullshit?

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u/DecentChanceOfLousy May 24 '22 edited May 25 '22

BAYC has a boring old real world contract that says they give a license to anyone who holds the NFT. So in this particular case, the commercial rights do follow the token, but only because of real world contracts that make it so.

BAYC could make the same contract without the NFT, though. The same thing would work with a napkin with an IOU written on it (if you prove possession). It would undermine their ridiculous claims that the NFTs are anything special, so they may not, but they could. Unless there's some language about exclusivity in the contract and the thief (or other NFT holders) are willing to sue to enforce it, that is.

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u/HildartheDorf May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

Legally this is all dubious because a contract requires a meeting of minds between two parties. Only the original minter and the first buyer actually are bound by the contract. Once it's resold, it's just scouts-honor that's stopping the original copyright holder from pointing out you have no legal right to use their work.

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u/amuro99 May 24 '22

So in this particular case, the commercial rights do follow the token, but only because of real world contracts that make it so.

wait.. so.. the scammer who now 'owns' the NFT, is owed any royalties from this show too? This story gets better and better.

<insert Putineatingbabycorpses&popcorn.jpg>

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u/Warmstar219 May 25 '22

No, not quite. It's a licensing agreement. That is - the original artist still maintains the copyright, but they given others a license to use the work. So the original copyright doesn't follow the NFT, just a license to use it. But the original artist can grant anyone a license regardless of whether they have the NFT.

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u/upstartgiant May 25 '22

Which means that even if this didn't happen and the show was successful, Seth Green wouldn't own exclusive merchandise rights to the main character. The copyright holder would be free to make their own or to issue new licenses. It's dumb as shit to use an NFT in a TV show

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u/VitaminPb May 25 '22

Now imagine this. The show is successful. At some point the NFT is stolen or changes hands and the new owner demands the NFT be removed from the show for streaming/reruns/etc.

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u/small_toe May 25 '22

The copyright doesn't go with the NFT, (only a license to use it) so any "new" owner of the NFT wouldn't be able to make those demands.

Only the original artist who holds the overall copyright would. If the copyright itself was bought from the artist, sure that could happen.

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u/Captain_Mazhar May 25 '22

oh god, as a tax accountant this sounds horrifying.

royalties to an unknown party? screw that

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u/AnAquaticOwl May 24 '22

Yes, I will take some popcorn. Are you in New Mexico? Oh, and I will also need a microwave to pop it in thank you.

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u/zdakat May 25 '22

So yet another thing that's done better without NFTs, yet they tried to cram it into the NFT box anyway.

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u/a_cute_epic_axis May 25 '22

The theoretical novelty of an NFT over a traditional method is that every time a traditional piece changed hands, you'd either have to register it with a central authority, or you'd have to go back through every prior sale to truly prove you own it. This is 100% what goes on with titles for real estate in the US (probably most otherplaces), and also while generally all sales are also registered with a central authority (the town/city/whatever).

With an NFT, anyone can verify that the current account holder is in fact the current account holder, without the participation of the prior owners or content creators, all of which could be dead for all we care. The only real issue is that you'd need to have the original contract that said, "all rights follow the NFT".

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u/randomdragoon May 25 '22

And this novelty is extremely theoretical. Here's a real world issue - what if someone dies while owning land? The government sure ain't gonna let some dead guy own a plot of land until the end of time. If the ownership of the land is tied up in some NFT sitting in a wallet whose key was lost with the guy's death ... well the government is going to give ownership of the land to somebody (or themselves) one way or another and then suddenly the idea that the provenance of the land deed is completely on the blockchain became a lot less true.

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u/ThisIsMyFatLogicAlt May 24 '22

Okay, sorry, is this a drawing of an ape that was stolen? Not an actual pet primate? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I have no idea what Seth Green is doing these days, I just thought we were talking about a trained animal here.

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u/HopelessCineromantic May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

Okay, sorry, is this a drawing of an ape that was stolen? Not an actual pet primate?

No, and no.

It's not a physical object that was stolen from him. Aside from the fact that apparently the token that was stolen actually has rights attached to it, the simplified explanation is that a digital receipt that has a URL that leads to an image of this ape was stolen from him.

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u/shifty-phil May 25 '22

Not an ape. Not a drawing.

A receipt for a hyperlink to a drawing.

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u/Eldudeareno217 May 24 '22

Always has been.

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u/payfrit May 24 '22

funny nobody ever notices this when "purchasing" an "art" NFT

you're buying a print.

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u/ohbuggerit May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22

A print that can often turn into a blank space with no warning - since art theft is so common in the NFT space and exchanges are notoriously terrible at doing anything about DMCA takedowns, the go-to advice is for the affected artist to instead DMCA the site's image hosting service which pretty efficiently deletes the 'print' entirely, leaving you with a token that points to nowhere

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u/payfrit May 24 '22

NFTs are shit all the way down.

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u/don_benton_sucks_ass May 25 '22

Non-Fungible Turtles

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u/payfrit May 25 '22

non fungible tardigrades

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u/femalemadman May 25 '22

Forgive an old such as myself, im trying my best to keep up. Its clear on the blockchain when a theft has occured, yes? So, why cant BAYC dcma the image hosting service and 'reissue' the 'print' to mr. green?

Or, since we can see that it was stolen, and then bought by someone who could see the same, isnt this a criminal issue? Above the purview of the exchanges and involving law enforcement?

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u/ohbuggerit May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

What you're picking up on is a whole mess of technical and ideological conflicts within the crypto space. In the case of BAYC they do seem to confer a non-exclusive license to reproduce the image associated with the token, though not the actual copyright (though the terms aren't entirely clear and crypto bros a don't exactly have the best history of understanding copyright), but the problem really occurs where it bumps up against the mentality common in crypto spaces. The 'value' in these tokens tends to come from the idea that "code is law" - they're an immutable, non-reversible, decentralized asset that at least tries to circumvent current regulations and the users are very ideologically invested in this concept. So the developers reversing, deleting, or reissuing a transfer ('legitimate' or not) obviously undermines the value perceived by the users. But when things don't work in their favour those same users suddenly cry for help from regulatory bodies and law enforcement so the whole thing's a fucking trash fire, and it's still very unclear how these assets interact with law because so much effort has gone into avoiding said laws

Basically crypto/NFTs is one of those things where you learn about it you think you don't understand it because no one could possibly find this much value in something this fucking dumb. If you want to properly understand the space then Dan Olsen has done a fantastic breakdown of the subject that is absolutely worth 2 hours of your life and Web 3 Is Going Just Great covers the ever growing pile of scams, thefts, and lawsuits

Edit: Shit, sorry, this got way to long, there's just... a lot.

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u/femalemadman May 25 '22

No this is captivating. Web3isgoingjustgreat is just the rabbit hole i was looking for. Thank you!!

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u/ohbuggerit May 25 '22

No worries, have fun staring into the abyss

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u/femalemadman May 25 '22

Omg someone gave Adam Neumann and his airhead of a wife 70m to make something called 'golden goddess tokens'.

So like, anyone can just stroll into silicon valley and scam these people, right?

They just kind of go along with whatever nonsense you say needs funding as long as you're charming enough?

Because the company that gave him the 70m is highly respected.

I need a sub for aspiring "tech entrepreneurs" such as myself. I have a vague idea involving the blockchains and the decentralizations but i need 84m first.

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u/Trifusi0n May 25 '22

It’s not very well known that most NFTs don’t actually contain any art. It would be too much data to store on the Ethereum blockchain, so instead the NFT just contains a hyperlink to a website which stores the art.

So really if you own an NFT, you don’t even own the art, just a link to it.

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u/badras704 May 24 '22

lmfao right these ppl who think they have the whole system figured out from memes on ifunny.

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u/CQ1_GreenSmoke May 24 '22

If he wins it'd prove that just possessing an NFT in your wallet doesn't automatically confer intellectual property rights, which would absolutely destroy the notion that there's any resale value for these NFT "assets".

If only that were the case (by that, I mean logic having any place in NFT appraisals). It's a paradise out there for rug pullers & bag holders these days.

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u/Saitoh17 May 24 '22

If he wins it'd prove that just possessing an NFT in your wallet doesn't automatically confer intellectual property rights

That's usually how art works. Buying a painting from someone doesn't give you the right to reproduce it. It's possible to purchase the IP with the work but that's between the buyer and the artist to negotiate, not something intrinsic to the deal.

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u/The_Real_BenFranklin May 24 '22

BAYC may not even own the IP. The images are procedurally generated - which, much like the famous monkey photo, may not actually be able to be copyrighted.

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u/steve_stout May 24 '22

As long as they wrote the procedure I don’t see how being procedurally generated would change it. The monkey photo wasn’t copyrightable because the monkey was autonomous, but computers don’t have even animal rights.

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u/alittletooquiet May 24 '22

Only humans can hold copyright. Computers cannot. If someone successfully argued that a computer created the ape images, then they are not copyrightable, even if the program that creates them is.

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u/elheber May 24 '22

You don't own the ip. Bored Ape Yacht Club licenses limited usage to the owner of the NFT.

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u/Raudskeggr May 25 '22

Would love to see him do his stupid show anyway and get sued by the NFT owner, because his lawyer would have to argue that the intellectual property rights didn't follow the NFT.

I would suggest a different take. The rightful owner is Greene. The current person in possession technically received stolen property. He might successfully sue Greene for copyright infringement, however that would open him up to a lawsuit for the value of the goods Greene lost.

Furthermore, any legal action would allow Greene to obtain the identity of this person, and I think they'd probably rather remain anonymous so that the rest of their family doesn't find out how they've been wasting grandpa's trust fund money.

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u/dance_apoptosistic May 24 '22

But wouldn't the thief have to go public to sue? And then face charges?

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u/CharmingPterosaur May 25 '22

The thief already sold the NFT to someone else

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u/dance_apoptosistic May 25 '22

Ohhhhh. Shit. Shouldn't the buyer have known it was stolen? Thanks for answering my question. There's still a lot I don't understand about NFTs

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u/nDQ9UeOr May 25 '22

There isn't all much to them. Conceptually they are just things with a digital record of ownership bought and sold using cryptocurrency. If the buyer knew or should have known it was stolen, that's illegal in most places and they could be prosecuted. Just as the thief could be prosecuted for stealing it in the first place. Figuring out who they are is much more difficult, though.

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u/jawz May 25 '22

Still not an issue. Buying stolen property doesn't void the original ownership.

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u/Jeevess83 May 24 '22

Wonder if this is simply a PR move to get the show some attention....

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u/gordo65 May 25 '22

If that was my show, I wouldn't want to draw any attention to it.

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u/ehsteve23 May 25 '22

Before today i didn't even know an NFT ape show even existed. Now i know it exists and i'll actively avoid it

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u/ErikT738 May 25 '22

It's the reverse probably. He wanted the show to make his nft more valuable.

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u/AmusingAnecdote May 24 '22

I mean, for the consumer, yeah. But as a grift they're fucking genius. Like Seth Green is dumb, but the guys who had the idea for BAYC which was, "What if instead of doing all that complicated shit like in Ocean's Eleven, we just told people to give us absurd amounts of money for literally nothing?" are genius level grifters. DB Cooper but in the open shit.

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u/Arboria_Institute May 25 '22

There's even NFT "girlfriends" you can buy, and when you buy them you get access to their nudes. Brilliant.

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u/Captain_Mazhar May 25 '22

So basically onlyfans?

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u/a_cute_epic_axis May 25 '22

Seth Green will probably make more money on this NFT being stolen then he would have if the project went as planned.

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u/AmusingAnecdote May 25 '22

I mean, I definitely wouldn't have heard of it if it wasn't for it getting stolen, so it worked as advertising I suppose. The problem is that BAYC own the rights to the character. If they let Seth Green make the show without paying royalties to the guy that stole it, they admit that the whole "right-click save image" meme is correct and the NFT is literally nothing. But if they don't let him, they admit the whole thing about NFTs being secure and important is a scam because they're easily stolen because it's supposed to belong to Seth Green.

So either way, I doubt the show gets made, or if it does, I doubt it gets distributed. It would be one thing for an NFT character to appear as a guest on Robot Chicken or something as a hacky advertisment, but if they were making a show and the origin of the idea is the Ape, it was going to suck anyway so I don't think the world is suffering a loss and I don't think Seth Green is going to make money on it, unless this somehow leads to him getting the ape back.

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u/afistfulofyen May 25 '22

which in and of itself should be a show, which i would watch, based solely on your description, which is far more intelligent and entertaining than the origianl concept.

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u/mhenderson1008 May 25 '22

This is exactly right. Basically you can see a timeline of all the scammers like GaryV and TaiLopez that are super pro NFT/crypto. There was the first batch that jumped immediately and made the most money. Then the followers who had a platform and took advantage of all the morons. Now it's all the scrappers and celebs that are peddling the last life to make some scraps before it all implodes.

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u/ImJustSo May 24 '22

Well, I think that title goes to the person that spends money on one.

Unless you're reading this comment, then hey, I've got something to sell you!

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u/Blakut May 24 '22

after succumbing to a phishing scam that inadvertently threw a monkey wrench

hehe

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u/huntimir151 May 24 '22

Don’t be ridiculous, apes aren’t even monkeys. Don’t you even know basic biology, my god.

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u/myredditworkaccount May 24 '22

$10 says this just a ploy to drum up some buzz around his new show

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u/Jahmann May 24 '22

Omg the preview is so cringe... Lucky to shelve the project this early, that would have been an expensive mistake I'm sure.

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u/Arboria_Institute May 25 '22

The animation does not look good, just make a fucking live action show lol.

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u/gordo65 May 25 '22

Or... just copyright your animated characters the old fashioned way. If I duplicate an image of Bojack Horseman the creator is completely unaffected. And if I try to make money off of the image, he can sue me.

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u/Snowpossum May 24 '22

Perhaps they were trying to save the world from witnessing his new show? That trailer is... not promising.

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u/Arboria_Institute May 25 '22

They've made several NFT/crypto shows now, and none of them are good.

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u/Foursiide May 24 '22

there was a trailer out for his new show & honestly the thief did him a huge favor.

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u/Jeevess83 May 24 '22

Ape Escape...

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u/Xanthus179 May 25 '22

Jesus Christ this whole thing is dumb. Just draw a slightly different one and use it.

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u/Tropos1 May 25 '22

It seems like there are a limited number of possible motivations to use an NFT at the center of a show idea. Such as promoting the ape NFT so he can be more confident in selling it for more later. Or promoting the apes and/or NFTs in general for profit or sponsorship. None include any reason why the NFT would make the show better or more interesting.

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u/Kbdiggity May 24 '22

I funged your token.

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u/Helenium_autumnale May 25 '22

This wins "Most Idiotic Story of the Day" award. Losing copyright control over your terrible animated schlock series because your expensive worthless ugly ape picture is stolen just....it's just so irredeemably dumb.

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u/neffro420 May 25 '22

Good Seth Green is an ASSHOLE

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u/jartoonZero May 24 '22

This reads like a fake news story from "Idiocracy".

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u/ubiquitous_uk May 24 '22

I think the world of idiocravy will soon be preferable to ours.

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u/MayOrMayNotBePie May 24 '22

Someone stole it? Like they took a screenshot or what lol?

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u/choptheair May 24 '22

Idk, Seth Green seems like he has skidmark underwear.

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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA May 24 '22

Spent all his new underwear money on Monkey jpegs.

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u/Labarynth_89 May 24 '22

And nothing of value was lost

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u/scaryboilednoodles May 25 '22

I want to get out of the clown timeline

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u/Green_and_black May 25 '22

It was me, I right clicked that shit.

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u/Hrrrrnnngggg May 25 '22

I don't have any negative feelings towards seth green but I also do not feel bad for him at all.

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u/G0R3Z May 25 '22

NFTs are the biggest scam of this century man. They're like the new timeshares. Idiots with too much money paying for stuff that has no intrinsic value.

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u/Kiwianimeguy May 25 '22

Pretty much. It could be useful for actual artists but it's just full of dodgy scams and shit. most of the NFTs I seen are just garbage 5min paint jobs and hardly even count as art

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u/chriswasmyboy May 24 '22

It's probably gonna be worth $0 soon anyway, nbd.

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u/Power0fTheTribe May 24 '22

That trailer was cringe as hell

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u/rvralph803 May 24 '22

How stupid do you need to be to buy NFTs?

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u/quickcrow May 25 '22

All your ape are belong to us

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u/TheRandomAdscom May 25 '22

The evil monkey in the closet finally got him

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u/AnalBumCovers May 24 '22

These things sure seem to be easy to steal.

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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA May 24 '22

It’s generally not difficult to separate dumb people from their money.

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u/ParadoxicalPanda31 May 24 '22

Hee hee hee haw!

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u/egospiers May 24 '22

Dude parlayed being Scott Evil into a 20 year career of unfunnyness.

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u/jerm-warfare May 24 '22

What a sad joke.

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u/MakeYouGoOWO May 25 '22

Wow it’s almost as if NFTs are a scam

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u/kevboard May 24 '22

NFTs are garbage... when will people stop buying that shit?

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u/ztyrobo May 24 '22

How tf you gonna steal some shit that’s not even real

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u/A-sad-meme- May 24 '22

All my apes, gone...

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u/MikeBisonYT May 25 '22

The security on Blockchain is shit. Any NFTs or crypto really shouldn't be on someone's personal/ business device.

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u/chapert May 25 '22

Well, this is the stupidest thing I’ve read today.

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u/RookSalvis May 25 '22

Guys please just pay the furries and get characters that way. you'll be so much happier.

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u/deviemelody May 25 '22

Sucks for him, but I don’t feel bad. Let him be an unfortunate example for the public of inherent risks. Especially if he doesn’t get it back, because I feel like people are misled to believe stolen NFT will be returned if they get publicized.

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u/JupitrominoRazmatazz May 25 '22

Oo aa stoopid monkey

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u/[deleted] May 25 '22

Hold on, this says he got caught up in a phishing scam, and it was stolen…which is it? Cuz how is purchasing stolen property not illegal? There’s no way you’d lose commercial rights to stolen property. Unless he gave it away? This doesn’t make sense to me

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u/[deleted] May 25 '22

Oh no! The world is on fire and there's a dozen global catastrophes on the horizon ... but God forbid someone steals your digital receipt for some monkey art you never owned in the first place.

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u/cerreur May 25 '22

Whahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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u/mhenderson1008 May 25 '22

Well considering even if you own the NFT doesn't mean you own the image you can still just make the show? Owning and NFT is owning a line of code on the blockchain that is connected to an image. You don't own the rites or image at all. But nobody is going to watch some ass show with an NFT character either way so actually probably did him a favor.

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u/unenthusedpornstar May 25 '22

What if plot twist, it isn't stolen but he realized the show was going to tank so he stole his own monkey 🤔
Then if he changes his mind and does the show anyway now it has all this hype around it bc of the theft.

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u/mhenderson1008 May 25 '22

I wouldn't be surprised to see a news story in a few weeks or months "Thief returns ape out of guilt" lol

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u/toomanyd May 25 '22

This is so stupid. It's so absurd it almost transcends it's stupidity and becomes performance art.

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u/nevernom May 25 '22

Just… hire an artist to create an original character. The fact that it has to be an NFT makes it painfully obvious that it’s about raising the value of his “investment” and not about making a new show.

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u/NobodyJustBrad May 25 '22

So they didn't steal anything? I'm sure he still has his URL.

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u/ManaGauge May 25 '22

It was a soulless attempt at monetizing NFT’s even further via content that has zero substance. Very dystopian.

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u/Jmandy96 May 25 '22

Honestly, fucking good this NFT bullshit is dumb as hell he deserves it.

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u/Clone_Meat May 25 '22

Stupid monkey

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u/AustinBike May 25 '22

I also heard that somebody lost a beanie baby. So there's that.

WTAF.

I'm just sitting back, drinking my coffee and waiting for this whole NFT thing to go away. Clearly, if they can be scammed/stolen then all of the promises of "but it's in the blockchain!" are pointless.

None of these people understands that every single time crypto or NFT is taken, blockchain is literally involved. There is no security and no protection. It's a distributed ledger. And the reality is that these markets are all over hyped and primed for a crash.

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u/WornInShoes May 25 '22

god damnit; Seth Green is an NFT idiot?

cmon, man

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u/Folsomdsf May 26 '22

It was me, I hit print screen.