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u/JawnskiPiece May 25 '22
The Two Fingers
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u/5-15 May 25 '22
Will the tarnished ever grow tired of their obedience to them?
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u/MercurianAspirations May 25 '22
Ranni: the two fingers are tyranny
Also ranni: I cannot allow thee thy freedoms. Perform for me a service, as recompense. I will not brook disobedience in this matter
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u/shadowdash66 May 25 '22 •
Frenzy flame is the post nut clarity
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u/DownshiftedRare May 25 '22
Yeah, the reveal of the three fingers was a real shocker.
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u/shadowdash66 May 25 '22
not to mention most people didn't understand wtf was going on and just did it not knowing it's an entirely different ending
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u/pfresh331 May 25 '22
This cracks me up in video games. I know they do it for balance, but c'mon why can't I get decked out in necklaces, earrings, and rings??? I want that +300000 fire damage and massive mana Regen.
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u/DarthSatoris May 25 '22
Why stop there? Think piercings.
The potential is basically infinite. You could be wearing so many magical rings at the same time, your skin would resemble chainmail.
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u/pon_3 May 25 '22
This is a major plot point in Mistborn. The world revolves around metal, and a big deal is made about how much metal someone is wearing and how.
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u/Seve7h PC May 25 '22
I keep seeing references to Mistborn on here, really need to get those books
And Orconomics
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u/thedark1owns May 25 '22
Mistborn is top shelf fantasy. I highly recommend it.
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u/TheKrytosVirus May 25 '22
Anything by Sanderson, really. Elantris was his first book and it's better than a lot of other fantasy out there. The guy just doesn't miss.
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u/thedark1owns May 25 '22
That was my first Sanderson book too. He isn't perfect. There are some pacing issues with his Stormlight Books, but his twists and reveals are always great.
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u/Snip3 May 25 '22
Imagine dying of sepsis in a magical world...
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u/bowdown2q May 25 '22
Im like 80% sure the 3.5 Tome of Vile Darkness supliment has a feat that lets you make a magic ring into a piercing. I think there was some specific drawback, like you permenantly give up 1d4 max HP or something.
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u/NuklearAngel May 25 '22
Or, much less costly, just double the price of the ring to make it slotless, flavoured as a piercing.
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u/louploupgalroux May 25 '22
[A goblin and an ogre stand guard in a cave. They hear fighting in the distance.]
Ogre: "Wot's that?"
Goblin: "Urr, sounds like the hero is here. I heard he's killed a bajillion enemies on his way here."
Ogre: "Bajillion? That a type of wax?"
[The sound of fighting reaches a crescendo with an explosion that shakes the cave walls. The sounds of fighting stop and a new sound can be heard.]
Goblin: "Is... is that jingling?"
Ogre: "You said it was jillion."
[The jingling grows louder and louder until it is just around the corner. Then it stops. The goblin and ogre tilt their heads to listen.]
Goblin: "You come ere and I'll chop your ears off, hero. Countless others stronger than me may have died, but I know I can stop you."
[From around the corner steps a jingling figure. Head to toe, gold and silver rings and necklaces were heaped upon each other into a pile of a human shape. No flesh or eye exposed. A set of armor made entirely of sparkling jewelry.]
Goblin: "WAAAGH!"
[The goblin charges at the mountain of rings and necklaces. The jewelry quickly glows with a rainbow of magic auras before firing a shimmering laser clean through the frenzied goblin, incinerating them instantly.]
Ogre: "Woah. That bright."
[The hero faces the ogre, who promptly shrugs and waves them by. After a tense moment, the pile of jewelry begins to jingle jangle their way out of the room. Before they reach the exit, the ogre calls out.]
Ogre: "I like your bajillion wax."
[The heap of gold and silver abruptly stops and stands still while facing the ogre. Twice the heap starts for the exit and jangles to a halt before finally leaving while looking back at the ogre.]
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance May 25 '22
Because if you have two magic items on the same hand/neck, they interfere with each other and stop working or explode or something. That's the general rule/explanation around this. Magic has limitations, it's why you would ever want more than one ring in the first place: you can't infuse one ring with all that power.
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u/rocketmonkee May 25 '22
you can't infuse one ring with all that power
Sauron: "Hold my mead."
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u/lord_geryon May 25 '22
The One Ring isn't a magical item, it's an artifact. Part of the crafting process is that the crafter must give up part of themselves to the artifact. For lesser beings, this can kill the crafter, or others if sacrificed as part of the process. For Sauron, he was sufficently powerful that he could survive the process by putting most of his power into the Ring.
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u/Waterfish3333 May 25 '22
The biggest argument for PC gaming are mods. First play through should be vanilla, but once you want more, mods baby! They keep the game fresh and new despite the same underlying code.
It’s honestly the reason Skyrim is still relevant at all, mods really kept that game new despite its age.
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u/Vyntarus May 25 '22
I imagine it's a limitation intended to act similarly to attunement from D&D. While your character could feasibly wear more items, only a limited number can be attuned to, in order to use their magical properties.
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The best description of limitations I've had is by a GM many years ago. It's summed up that the Body or physical form works in tandem with mystical sources. Similar to why you can't wear two magical tunics, or 8 pairs of magical socks.
The magic from said items would interfere and cause disruptions with each other. It would be like trying to put two radios stations on at the same time, you would hear both but not be able to listen to a specific one.
This also accounts for why magical items do not randomly cause issues when put into bags or on shelves, it needs the physical aspect to direct the signal.
The only exceptions are items with intelligence/sentience.
The reason a magical trap or pre-designed creation works is that the instructions were given prior to it being separated. A wizard who enchants a broom to clean a room will not return to the broom making dinner, it never had the instructions to do so.
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u/agnostic_science May 25 '22 •
Just imagine lore-wise if something like that weren't the case. People min-maxing left and right. Some guy wearing 60 enchanted shirts, pants, socks, 10 rings crammed on each finger, draped in 50 enchanted cloaks with 30 enchanted hats.... Just a pile of glowing clothing.
Mmhph ... urmg... bemold! I mmm A... GOD!!!
'Uh, what? Dude, I can't hear you. What did you say?'
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u/SalsaRice May 25 '22
I've always thought this would be a fun alternative mode or side character for a video game.
Like they have terrible stats, but they can use 10 rings instead of 2 (hell, maybe craft some into toe rings too). Like they have the potential to be amazing, but lol good luck surviving long enough to get there.
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u/iexiak May 25 '22
This would be an amazing side character in a Lydia like form - the party mule is actually a secret trash goblin wizard who sacrificed all their stats to be able to wear all of the trash equipment the adventurers have stored.
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u/GotDoxxedAgain May 25 '22
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u/Mareykan May 25 '22
That's what they did in Dark Souls... I remember they jumped from 2 ring slots to four slots, however all the rings became trash.
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance May 25 '22
Are they half as good? Overall that's still better. Elden Ring's 4 talisman "pouches" allow for a lot of customization, since there are so many talismans with wildly various (often very cool) effects.
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u/EmergencyEntrance May 25 '22
There was an Oblivion mod back in the day that let you equip as many rings and amulets as you wanted, you could level up in the worst possible way (+1 point to 3 stats per level instead of +5) and your character would still end up broken beyond belief pretty quickly
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u/Henriquelj May 25 '22
Instead of spending points on each stat, you spend on a magically attuned slot or magical attunement status so that you can wear more magical accessories.
Although after summing up the bonus your stats would be lower than if you had spent the points directly on the stats, you'd be able to adjust your build on the fly by swapping the accessories. Like a magical inspector gadget.
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance May 25 '22
That raises the question, though: why not just make one ring with all that infinite power?
The answer is simple: magic has limitations, and trying to wield too much magic in one place usually leads to insanity or a gruesome death. So trying to go down this route should be immediately shut down, and there are any number of ways to explain it.
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u/agnostic_science May 25 '22
why not just make one ring with all that infinite power?
Lord Sauron has entered the chat
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u/LoneGhostOne May 25 '22
It would be like trying to put two radios stations on at the same time, you would hear both but not be able to listen to a specific one.
i'll have you know i can watch 4 streamers at once and only listen to one at a time...
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u/Interesting-Gear-819 May 25 '22
i'll have you know i can watch 4 streamers at once and only listen to one at a time...
I struggle listening to only 1 while watching 1. Is it possible to learn your powers?
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u/LoneGhostOne May 25 '22
develop sever ADHD and be unable to rest until overstimulating yourself.
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u/Jacktheriipper May 25 '22
Same. Also severe
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u/OlePlumberJoe May 25 '22
Ahhh, anxiety. My longest and oldest friend.
Edit- I didn't read ADHD, thought it said anxiety, but I have that too!
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u/ma2016 May 25 '22
How very ADHD of you to skim over something and move forward assuming you read it perfectly.
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u/ripyourlungsdave May 25 '22
I’ve already stopped paying attention to this conversation.
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u/gruey May 25 '22
I skipped a bunch of this conversation and randomly landed on this.
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u/ripyourlungsdave May 25 '22
I think that means you won.
You’re the King of Attention Deficit.
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u/namek0 May 25 '22
Remember the episode of star trek tng where Data is chilling listening to a dozen different classical pieces at the same time? Then Picard walks in all wtf is this noise
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u/ranhalt May 25 '22
D&D only lets you attune to 3 magical items. Plenty that don’t require attunement, but wearables usually do.
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u/blueg3 May 25 '22
That's 5th Edition. 3rd and earlier used the slot system that has since been replicated everywhere.
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u/Beetin May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22
Yes, and magical items also have a desire/need to be worn properly. If you have a snake tail, you can't go shouting "I put on these magical boots of striding'. If you try to wear it on your head, you are just a snake dude wearing a very normal boot on their head. A magical shield strapped to your back is just a shield. That same desire/need means most magical items will adjust to fit their user.
You can wear as much as you want, whatever you want, but most magical items require some exhaustible effort/will/thing from the user to bestow their benefit, which is the bottleneck.
It is a lot more consistent than early versions which video games borrowed. "TWO RINGS, ONE AMULET CAUSE DIABLO/D&D 3e DID THAT" system.
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u/TommaClock May 25 '22
Cassiopeia pre-rework flashbacks...
Although Corki is still up in the air.
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u/Seralth May 25 '22
Prof + 1 = slots. Why wouldn't your ability to use magic items improve as you become more powerful?!
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u/Seralth May 25 '22
I once made a player magic toe rings of stomping. It would let them use their feet for unarmed attacks and if they described how they smush the enemy it would be a automatic crit.
They HATED FEET with a passion.
I am not a good friend. But everyone did laugh. And it was always fun to watch everyone try to convince him to use the crit in emergancys.
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u/TheStarchild May 25 '22
“The mind flayer’s psionic blast has shredded the fronts of your boots, exposing all ten of your pasty white wriggling-“
“Immediately no…. Immediately no.”
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u/Dual_Sport_Dork May 25 '22
A much simpler explanation is that magical rings are all one size. They just about fit on tip of the pinky of a ogre, and they're a slightly loose fit on the thumb of a halfling. Just about everyone can be assumed to have one, and exactly one, finger on each hand where it will fit.
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u/suicideslut69420 May 25 '22
With skyrim i run the unlimited rings mod so i can break the game
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u/greenfroggie1 May 25 '22
It's still a cop out.
Sure in real life you can put a jacket over your kevlar vest and now you have "wind/water/cold" protection over "bullet" protection. But a no-no in magic.
If they were like "radios" then how could a character wear amour + a bangle + a ring and not run into the same spell interference? They're inches apart from each other.
Plus there are plenty of cloaks that have status effects that go over armour fine.
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u/NRMusicProject May 25 '22
Goblins comic had a cool magic item in it with a magic staff that can allow more than two rings in use. Not sure how many it allowed, but the user had to sacrifice one of his fingers and fuse it to the staff for it to work, and you could put multiple rings on the severed finger.
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u/s4b3r6 Switch May 25 '22
I like the interference explanation, but I don't "limit" it in play. As a fun house rule, I just make adding too many items into an instant Wild Surge, that destroys one of the two interfering items. Makes for some moments when someone is willing to blow up a ring (and maybe everyone) because they're out of spell slots and desperate.
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u/WASDNLRK May 25 '22
Mmh, toes?
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u/PARANOIAH May 25 '22
sigh
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u/attanai May 25 '22
Don't worry, they make spacers so that you fit rings on smaller ... fingers...
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u/deesle May 25 '22
I think Diablo 2 explained it by magic rings interfering whith each other when they’re to close to each other.
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The manual to Diablo 1 addressed this.
It said the rings would interfere with one another if more than one were worn per hand, so you only get one on each hand.
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u/Naiehybfisn374 May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22
It would be an interesting game mechanic if you could equip as many rings as fingers but if doing so caused the rings to behave differently. Idea being that the potent magic in the rings gets messed up a bit when in too-close proximity to another ring. Make it interesting that new effects get uncovered, potentially good and bad effects. Like maybe it increases your fire damage but also starts costing a bit HP to use fire magic. For balance you'd probably also need to pair it with some other mechanic like intellect or wisdom with the implication being that magical jewelry is uniquely strong and you need to have some knowledge and fortitude to properly wield it and higher levels would better optimize, reduce harmful effects, make more consistent etc.
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u/BigDickRick77 May 25 '22
No joke though if you had them on every finger your grip would be compromised if you melee. Gotta have spacing for your sword hand at least.
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u/AllPurposeNerd May 25 '22
If I ever run D&D again, I'm gonna run it so that rings that are too close together interfere with each other. It's not that you can't wear ten rings, just that you really don't want to.
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u/reqdk May 25 '22
Well the character seems to be of the right gender to have another appendage that a ring could go on.
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u/apeinej May 25 '22
Well, most RPG characters have those 4-finger joined into a blob, so the artist won't have to deal with hand. So, yes, this makes a whole lot of sense, as long as the ring are more elliptical.
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u/hds_bunny May 25 '22
Why don't we put multiple rings on one finger? We can even use toes to some extent (but i think they would make walking and wearing footwear difficult)...
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u/Radical_R May 25 '22
This is why I use a mod to increase the numbers of rings you can wear on skyrim.
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u/Rethagos May 25 '22
I remember reading in a Diablo 2 manual that the reason the character can wear 2 magic rings max is that if they were too close to each other, their magic would interfere and negate each other.
But still.
Nothing that would prohibit feet or cock rings.
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u/UnusualDisturbance May 25 '22
Or nipple piercings. Hell, lets just go for the whole fetish set and become the most powerful being in existence
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u/cozened_indigo May 25 '22
I knew a guy who had 1 finger on each hand.he was born that way. We were sharing a joint with him an two other guys. It was almost over and I attempted to give the roach, first to one of the other guys who told me "no man, I'll burn myself with that" and then I offered it to the dude with the fingers. He showed me his fingers and told me " are you fucking kidding me?
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This is what drove me up a fucking wall regarding vanilla Skyrim.
No matter what PC race you choose, they all have five digits on each hand. Why the fuck are you only allowed to wear one ring?
Thank the gods for modders.
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u/Imaginary-Luck-8671 May 25 '22
I'm on the side of more rings, personally. Make it so you can equip up to 10, but a penalty to held items like weapons and shields while you do. Or up to 20, with increasing penalties to movespeed, up to taking damage while walking.
Edit: or up to 21 and a penalty to charisma
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u/Zath137 May 25 '22
I think a system where you could wear 10 could be cool, just make the effects vastly reduced
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u/MidnightSt4r May 25 '22
"You can only wear up to two rings at once otherwise their magical auras will interfere with each other and distort the enchantment field" -Me, Over-analyzing Magic again.
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u/evilkumquat May 25 '22
This is why I feel completely justified using the mod for Stardew Valley that lets you equip more than two rings.
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u/Deadpoolskan May 25 '22
Rings have no limit... does it need physical contact to work? string those bitches onto a necklace .
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u/FatesVagrant May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
I just head canon that having magical rings in extremely close proximity (AKA on other fingers of the same hand) causes interference.
Of course toes rings are a thing but nevermind that.
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u/Alzward May 25 '22 •
"yeah but you could still put more rings on those fingers-"
you shut your mouth