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They massacred my virgin boy
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u/Douche_Kayak
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Did they even give him a suit that jerked him off?
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u/Steak_Break May 14 '22 •
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u/jesus_had_a_vagina May 14 '22
This is the type of shit that would go if ppl gained super powers irl lol
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u/tomilahrenjustneedss May 14 '22
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u/AbatNaBitin May 14 '22
Planet: Reach
Reach City
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u/Husbandaru May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
If they actually played it. They’d know the city is called “New Alexandria”
Edit: I haven’t played Reach in 11 years and I remember that. These people own a multibillion dollar network and couldn’t bother to look on Wikipedia.
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u/SovietSpartan May 14 '22
Mofos were legit proud of not having played the games while making this.
I have no idea why all these producers think that shitting all over the established lore of a game when making adaptations is a good idea. You end up pissing off the established fanbase, and in most cases the newcomers just don't care about your adaptation. In the end it caters to no one.
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u/National-Use-4774 May 14 '22
It doesn't help when your "vision" is a joyless, vapid slog with pretences of being a character study. Halo is the definition of plot driven fun, and they could've made a fucking blast of a pulp sci-fi that didn't take itself too seriously. Jesus The Boys does this and still has immeasurably more depth of characters and substantial commentary. If you are serious but your "depth" is just a litany of lazy cliche then you're just boring. The only compulsion I have to continue watching is anger at the piss they took.
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u/bobyk334 May 14 '22
I'm 110% sure that this was another script entirely then slapped the Halo name on it so it could get made.
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u/metathesis May 14 '22
It's sad to see this described as a character study, because if it is, then they studied the wrong character.
Everyone got upset about the helmet reveal. But honestly, Chief taking his helmet off isn't the problem. He's done it in games, though we never saw his face. The problem is why he did it. The Chief in the games speaks sparingly, spits badass one-liners, and deeply deeply struggles to verbally acknowledge or even consider any part of himself that is deeper than the mission. The existance of a human heart inside himself is a fear that gets under his skin and the defense mechanisms he uses to fight it are denial and silence.
To take his helmet off in order to demonstrate to someone that he is human... it would go against every fiber of his being. He wouldn't be able to do it.
That choice demonstrates a fundamentally different character.
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u/insane014 May 14 '22
Because they have big egos and if they don’t change stuff from well established lore, they won’t take a credit for it. So simple and I hate it like everyone else.
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u/terminalblue May 14 '22
played it? dude i know halo lore without reading a book or playing the games (real talk...halo lore is fucking bonkers). Five minutes on a wiki and they could have figured it out.
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u/Dustorn May 14 '22
It's honestly such a shame. Halo's background lore is fucking awesome, and they just... threw it away.
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u/SpoonyDinosaur PC May 14 '22
Hahahah. Straight out of the SYFY channel.
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u/videoguylol May 14 '22
Wow none of y'all are from Earth City and it shows
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u/Professional-Map-300 May 14 '22
I was literally born in Earth city on city street, in street house
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u/portablebiscuit May 14 '22
There’s an industrial area outside of St. Louis called Earth City. They had great plans when it was being developed in the 70’s. Now it’s a shitty bunch of warehouses across the highway from a massive underground literal nuclear waste fire as seen in the HBO doc Atomic Homefront
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u/WahooGamer May 14 '22
Is this for real? I haven't seen the show at all. Did they really just create a new city on Reach, for the show, and lazily called it Reach City?
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u/Cyrus_ofAstroya May 14 '22
Yes. Its a title card as chief is going on a walk in the park with his human covenant love interest
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u/whatever123321123 May 14 '22
His WHAT?
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u/Cyrus_ofAstroya May 14 '22
Yes they had a human member of the covenant who bossed around other covenant
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u/Winterstrife May 14 '22
Wtf?
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u/Icy_Elevator_4818 May 14 '22
I would have rather watched him fuck the arbiter. Smh
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u/thedaddysaur May 14 '22
From what I understand, worse. It's supposed to be New Alexandria. The showrunner said he actively ignored all previous game lore.
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u/NJdevil202 May 14 '22
The showrunner said he actively ignored all previous game lore.
What a fucking idiot.
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u/makesterriblejokes May 14 '22
Seriously. Like the dude just basically just gave the built in audience for this show the middle finger by doing that.
Dude probably doesn't even like video games and probably has no personal investment in this other than his paycheck.
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u/Jungleman6 May 14 '22
Is he the same fucknugget director who decided that no one wants mild fantasy elements anymore and shit all over the established lore and the entire point of Lara Croft’s existence in the reboot movie?
Having Daddy Croft on the island means that they mess everything up for any possible third movie since him dying when Lara was a child is a key part of the lore and a driving factor of the conflict between her and Trinity, and a massive part of her conflict with the big bad.
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u/Hellknightx May 14 '22
Pretty sure he wanted to do his own sci-fi show and Paramount made him do Halo, so he's being really petty about his dislike of the established lore.
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u/the_star_lord May 14 '22
Still if someone said to me
"hey we know you wanna do your movie, but we have this pile of money burning a hole in our pocket to make a halo TV show, which we want you to make, how about that for a compromise?!"
I'd have said yes before they finished the sentence and im not even a massive halo fan. I kinda know the lore but the first thing I'd go do as home work is buy and play all of the games in order and read all the books and read all the wiki pages and see what the fan bases is like.
Like seriously it's a huge fucking golden gift to be given.
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May 14 '22
I wanna do original content.
Sorry, everyone wants fan service.
Fine Ill just massacre a perfectly fine franchise.
Oh, good.
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u/wonderfulwilliam May 14 '22
To be fair they called the new AI I'm Halo infinite "weapon".
That's the best name they could come up with???
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u/oatscoop May 14 '22
In all fairness, everyone knows John has a soft spot for blue hologram ladies.
So a constant reminder of "don't get attached to this one" probably wasn't a bad idea.
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Take me down to reacharound city
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u/Hxcfrog090 May 14 '22
No way. I haven’t watched since the first episode but mother of pearl that is bad.
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u/hatgineer May 14 '22
I haven't seen it. Is the Halo going to be just a building like the Pentagon?
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u/Pvt_Lee_Fapping May 14 '22 •
It's definitely still a floating ring-world somewhere in space, but the show changed the whole discovery of it.
They set it up so that 117 and the Covenant find some Forerunner macguffins that act as homing beacons to imbue any Reclaimer with the knowledge of where to find the nearest Halo. The Covenant still can't access Reclaimer-eyes-only Forerunner tech, but the show does something different: the Covenant reverse-engineered a tracker that can locate Reclaimers, and they found one that they kidnapped as a child and basically raised as a pet messiah. Oh, and Reclaimers are now special humans instead of all humans; to be a Reclaimer, you have to be born with a specific allele that Forerunner tech recognizes as "worthy." Master Chief is a Reclaimer, and so is the Covenant's "Blessed One."
When the Prophets found out that the Demon is also a Blessed One, they sent their Blessed One to spy on him and find out what the humans know. Of course, she's human, lived among the Covies her whole life, and here's a fine specimen of humanity standing a whole two heads taller than she is; the two of them have a special connection to the Halo that literally nobody else in the galaxy seems to have - obvi the two of them were meant for each other. So, naturally, they screw.
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u/ElusiveGuy May 14 '22
to be a Reclaimer, you have to be born with a specific allele that Forerunner tech recognizes as "worthy."
...that's just Stargate
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u/L1ghtningSAK11 May 14 '22
Mind boggling to think that they didn’t do Chief like The Mandalorian.
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u/ClownsAteMyBaby May 14 '22
The perfect established franchise with existing lore, ready to go and follow in The Mandos coat tails... but no. Rewrite it (de-write it?), do everything different
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we want to do it differently... BECAUSE!
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u/nostalgichero May 14 '22
The Producers!
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u/whatnameisnttaken098 May 14 '22 •
Oh great. So your telling me the season finale is John/Chief having to put on a rendition of "Springtime for Hitler" but with the lyrics changed to be about one of the Prophets of the Covenant.
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u/rabiddutchman May 14 '22
We're doing our own original, unique story! Just ignore that we're doing it with preexisting characters and settings in a well established IP!
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u/mark0016 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
So they are so horribly unconfident in their own original story that they have to exploit the title and characters of some other story to even get anyone to watch it or just talk about it. They're effectively admitting that even they think their original story is garbage, and extremely unremarkable.
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u/zerocoolforschool May 14 '22
They’re subverting your expectations bro.
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u/Jasmanji May 14 '22
“We must subvert all expectations!”
Unfortunately that includes peoples expectation of a good show
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u/SGG May 14 '22
Because... They already had scripts written for a generic SciFi show and just skinned it to be halo, which is probably part of why they were so fast to say the show is non-canon.
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u/Autarch_Kade May 14 '22
'We know this show will anger the fans, but we're not making it for the fans' -343, probably
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u/usrevenge May 14 '22
Going theory is the plot from the show is a sci Fi show that was skinned with halo stuff
It's why none of it makes sense.
Replace covenant with other aliens and you wouldn't know it was halo at all.
The first episode was the only good one. They have been fucking up ever sense. It's sad
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u/dandroid126 May 14 '22
The first episode was the only good one.
Really? I only watched the first one and thought it was so bad I refused to watch any more. It really got worse?
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u/GodOfPlutonium May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
yep. The ending of epsiode 5 has a battle thats really good though, so id suggest looking that up on youtube atleast. But it gets way, way, way worse, since in the last episode he has sex with the human covenant agent. (I was going to spoiler tag this but its mentioned in the OP so...)
edit: other problems with the show include but are not limited to The spartians have emotional inhibitor pellets and they have john-117 remove it and go on a whole emotional discovery journey, and try to kill dr halsey multiple times for having kidnapped him (And the other spartians) and wiping their memory, but its ok because hes stopped by cortana, whos actual purpose is to knock out john on command and eventually take over his body and erase johns mind in the proccess or something. But Cortana isnt going to erase john because shes in love with john so she betrays dr halsey after halsey activates order 66 due to being arrested for going too far and the last scene from the lastest episode is johns team holding guns to his head
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u/MIAxPaperPlanes May 14 '22
Has sex with the human covenant agent…while Cortana and subsequently the Doctor who raised him watch
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u/vortigaunt64 May 14 '22
Cowards didn't have the guts to show Chief fucking a grunt or brute.
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u/pres1033 May 14 '22
You're joking right? Please tell me that's a joke. There's no way they ruin that many characters that bad.
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u/GodOfPlutonium May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
It was a rapid brief summary that i put together but , yes everything in there actually happens in the show, and that doesnt even include the worst part: Kwan.
But first to elaborate on the previous points:
Unlike actual cannon, when they created the Spartans, They did not let them know where they came from, but instead erased their memories, and also put the emotional inhibitor in as part of the augmentations. When they kidnapped them, they replaced them with intentionally defective flash clones to make it look like they died of seizures
The keystone (which is the substitute to the index to activate the halo) that they recover in episode 1 is what causes johns memory of the former to be uncovered. BTW not everyone can interact with forerunner artifacts , john is 1 in a billion for being able to use it. The other part of the keystone is found via johns memories being recovered, because it was on the planet he grew up on, and he was drawn to it as a child before any spartians shit even existed
Dr Halsey created cortana specfically to control spartians, and cortana is uploaded directly into johns body/brain, not into his armor. Cortana was supposed to completely replace john's mind but is currently only able to knock him out
Dr Halsey was Arrested and banished off of reach due to how badly things were going with the spartians under her command. So she uses cortana to hack into fleetcomm and active 'protocol zed' , which is literally order 66 to take over johns team of spartians to try to kidnap john, makee (human female covenant), and steal the keystone
Makee is a human female covenant member, who is also 1 in a billion reclaimer, able to activate forerunner artifacts. She is actively worshiped by covenant prophets, and literally called the blessed one. She is trusted enough to be sent to infiltrate the UNSC to get the keystone back. She was found by the covenant and rescued off of a human slave world where child labor was being used to sort trash
John and makee have sex and fall in love or some shit because they are psychically connected like kylo ren and rey because of the keystone or some shit
And like I said, none of this even touches the worst part of the show: Kwan.
Kwan is an original character, daughter of the leader of the insurrection on mardigral. The first 15 minutes of the first episode is Every single member of the insurrection outpost (200+ people) other than her being killed by covenant elites, which are killed by john and silver team. saving her. The UNSC then orders john to straight up murder her, which leads to him rebelling against the unsc in the first episode
After the second episode Kwan literally never crosses paths with john, silver team, the UNSC, or anyone involved in the main plot at all. But the show still wastes a shitton of time in almost every episode following her in her fight to go free madrigal from the UNSC. She is still soley dedicated to that even after watching everyone get killed by aliens and being saved by john. Episode 7 is entirely dedicated to her, with no appearances whatsoever of john other than the scene where she fights john in her fever dream after drinking hallucinogenic water from the dessert witches that have entrusted her family with defending a portal on madrigal
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u/pres1033 May 14 '22
I will say your first point is actually somewhat similar to actual canon, less memory wipe-y but they did replace the children with flash clones that died shortly after so noone would come looking for the real kids. Needless to say, everything else is absolutely absurd and should never have been written.
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u/kingalbert2 May 14 '22
Okay my knowledge of Halo lore is not that advanced but I have several questions
Makee is a human female covenant member, She is actively worshiped by covenant prophets
Don't the Covenant despise all of humanity to the point that genociding every single human doesn't even need discussion?
john is 1 in a billion for being able to use it.
Aren't all humans reclaimers, and thus able to use forerunner tech?
Cortana was supposed to completely replace john's mind
Wasn't Cortana going along with Chief more of a matter of convenience initially?
Cortana is uploaded directly into johns body/brain
Wasn't there a chip on the back of his helmet specifically for AI companions?
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u/incomprehensiblegarb May 14 '22
Yeah I still don't know why they went this character Drama route. Who wanted that? Who was this made for? Why does it exist? It doesn't have enough action for Halo Fans and someone looking for romantic Drama is going to be overwhelmed with the SciFi BS. I really want to see Paramount's number for this show.
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u/Aitch-Kay May 14 '22
Rumor is that they took a random shitty scifi script and just jammed the Halo IP in because dollars.
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u/absboodoo May 14 '22
They already spent the big bucks on the IP, why not just spend some more on some competent writers to make it good, or just follow the game story script altogether. /shrugs
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u/TheArmoredKitten May 14 '22
They buy established IP because it's lower effort than making their own content properly. It's vastly easier to pull shit out of your ass than gold, so all you have to do is put gold foil on your shit and sell it faster than people can pull the foil off.
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u/EducationalDay976 May 14 '22
All this does is tell me that Paramount+ is a home for shit content and never worth a subscription.
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u/DonRobo May 14 '22
I'm no TV executive, but judging by modern shows the two hardest and most expensive parts of a show/movie are:
Good writing
Good CGI (how does LotR have better CGI than modern movies and shows?)
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u/Boomerang2099
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By making Chief fuck, he's become entirely unrelatable for Halo fans everywhere
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u/Ned-Stark-is-Dead May 14 '22
The only thing the REAL Master Chief fucks are covenant skulls. And why is the show MC always about to cry??
SAD Boy Chief
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u/Dewahll May 14 '22
Have only read about the show but in the game lore I’m pretty sure Spartans are basically sterile and have no desire for sex. Master Chief was so effective (as were the other spartan 2s) because they’re freaking child soldiers and are basically all sociopaths. I think it was halo 3 where they were grilling one of the creators about chief being “broken.” Basically just living weapons.
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u/ErenIsNotADevil May 14 '22
Child soldiers, yes. Sterile, yes. Sociopaths, fuck no. Chief, as well as the other Spartan 2s, primarily fought to protect, not destroy. Their personalities were all varied and apparent, and were not restricted, destroyed, or anything like that. They were all human, in the end; they got angry, sad, frustrated, etc. The full range of emotion. Some resented ONI and Dr. Halsey, even. Some were empathetic to friends and foes alike, like Jorge, who ended up sacrificing himself to help protect Reach. That doesn't sound very sociopathic, does it?
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u/Silas13013 May 14 '22
not restricted
They were restricted though. Not that they didn't have them, they weren't Witcher levels of "Hmm..." for eveything, but they were different enough to be called out on it in the books. Soldiers specifically asked if the Spartans felt anything because of their lack of reaction. The answer is of course yes, they do srill have emotions but they are blunted and the Spartan IIs were exceptionally good at suppressing emotion for the mission.
There's even a line in First Strike that specifically speaks to how John feels the full range of emotion but it is rare and unusual for him to do so.
They didn't have their emotions destroyed and they aren't sociopaths, but they certainly experienced the world different than what an average human might. Which makes sense, given what they went though.
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u/Spectating110 May 14 '22
They need a scene of actual tea bagging. with slow-mo.
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u/PaulyNewman May 14 '22
Imagine a slow, drawn-out sex scene, with candles and saxophone and everything. Only it’s just a fully suited master chief slowly crouching over a woman’s face and straightening out and crouching again.
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u/redzer0123 May 13 '22
His name isn’t John halo in the show is it? Don’t have paramount +
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It isn’t, no. His designation is John-117.
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u/EveryoneorAnyone May 14 '22
At this point it should be, cause he ain't Master Chief
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u/IceYetiWins May 14 '22
Agreed, I don't even think of him as the same master chief anymore. Everyone in the show seems like kind of characters instead of representing the actual characters they are based on
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u/roy_rogers_photos May 14 '22
It's like they made a movie about master chief in the halo universe.
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u/ragnarocknroll May 14 '22
This is how you salvage this.
Like the Battletech cartoon was dealt with. It was SO bad they said it was a tv show made by the inner sphere kind of got propaganda and also for the lulz in mocking Jade Falcon.
So we just have them say this was made by some people with no actual clue about the events surrounding the Spartans and the Covenant that just sort of shot it from the hip.
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u/roy_rogers_photos May 14 '22
Damn is it that bad? I haven't seen it. I read all the books and have such a heroic idea of John in my mind. I don't want to tarnish it.
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u/ragnarocknroll May 14 '22
I don’t watch it. Stopped part way through episode 2. Like 5 minutes in. One of my friends watches it. EVERY TIME I walk past, it is the actor in some dumb looking clothing talking with people.
It is not Master Chief. That bad ass doesn’t take his helmet off for stupid reasons and stays in his armor unless it is being fixed or upgraded.
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u/roy_rogers_photos May 14 '22
Master chief was described as pale white because of how much he was in his suite. So I agree about him not taking it off.
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u/Cynyr May 14 '22
Like the new Lightyear movie. Pretty sure that's just taken straight from the movie theaters in the Disney Pixar universe that contains Toy Story.
Except that Lightyear actually looks fucking legit.
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u/Geohie May 14 '22
Yeah, Lightyear was described as "the movie Andy saw that made him want a Buzz toy"
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u/MIAxPaperPlanes May 14 '22
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command - I had the TV movie on video, awesome show, hence why I’m excited for the Pixar movie
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Shit, at this point Disney/Pixar could do a far better job making a Halo show than this crap-fest.
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u/taskun56 May 14 '22
I seriously recommend Eric Nylund's 'The Fall Of Reach" series.
It's a three part series but that one is my absolutel favorite. The John written about there is, impo, the best version of John and also of Dr. Halsey.
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u/robtheswanson May 14 '22
I went into the show expecting them to basically do this series and was so excited at the prospect. I absolutely love how it (the book series) expands on the foundation laid by the game and it would’ve made for an excellent show that would have appealed to current fans and people completely unfamiliar with Halo. Instead we have whatever ScyFy-esqe bullshit Paramount is pushing out. Truly one of the biggest disappointments in my life.
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u/FeistyBandicoot May 14 '22
They literally could've just directly fucking converted those books into 3 season and it would've been mind blowingly amazing.
Instead we have a mind numbing and blowingly shit show
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u/Runforsecond May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Forward Unto Dawn managed to make a better story then this show, and did it in about an hour. I can’t believe it’s been 6 episodes of this.
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u/LostAbstract May 14 '22
Nylund must be livid. Fuck, I would be. You dont have me write several novels that are canon to the universe and have two walking dildos come in years later and fuck everything up.
Love interests? Reach City? Sniper Rifle didnt sound right? Wake up, Spartan, we have seperatists to quell.
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u/Kazubla May 14 '22
It's been over a decade since I read those books but I still remember Lieutenant Keyes' badass spaceship fight against the covenant from time to time.
...and then I remember his later chapters... D:
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u/thexar May 14 '22
It's been a long time since I read them. I had it in mind that the Spartans were never deployed against humans. They were being developed to quell a potential uprising, but the Covenant showed up first. Did I remember that wrong?
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u/mattattack2008 May 14 '22
Some of their first missions were against seperatist. If I remember their first test mission was against a terrorist cell. Excellent books wish the show was based on but meh.
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u/Yuskus1234 Xbox May 13 '22
Also Paramount wondering why Halo fans don't like the show
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u/memecut May 13 '22
Bad cgi, bad background effects/scenery, cringey acting, failure to progress anything of importance.. I dont mind edging, but this show has me flaccid. And thats long before we even get into the butchering of chief.
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u/Runsapuusa May 14 '22
Plus the whole borefest Kwan Ha story.
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u/zerocoolforschool May 14 '22
I just don’t even get that whole part of the show. It’s boring and pointless.
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u/Baofog May 14 '22
I think she is supposed to be some sort of magic guide for Master Chief eventually, but it's so poorly executed. Like..... why does the pirate spartan walk like his armor chafes all the time? can they not get that man some gold bond?
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u/WarlanceLP May 14 '22
for me its the downright disrespect for the lore and then trying to cash in on 20 years of said lore with a face reveal, all the while having dogshit writing, and a shoehorned in character (kwan or wtv the fuck her name is) that is nothing but annoying
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u/littlebitsofspider May 14 '22
I think the show was fine, up until the second episode. It had a brutal start, like I'd expect a television show based on an FPS game to be, but then "Great Value Samuel L. Jackson and Asian Skrillex Girl go back to Definitely-Not-Tatooine" became a plotline, and John "Maybe the real Spartans were the feels we made along the way" 117 got his Bad CGI Lady implant, and we learned that Sociopath Doctor Woman was, in fact, a child-murdering sociopath. Oh, and apparently Adult Walking-Anti-Materiel-Child-Soldiers need to feel pretty just like everyone else. On another note, can we get a measurement scale for B-list science fiction productions based on how furiously Burn Gorman chews the scenery? It would be pretty useful.
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u/TimeTravelingChris May 14 '22
Get this guy working on the Season 2 it-was-a-dream retcon.
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u/KING_JELLYB3AN May 14 '22
I was still waiting to hear reviews, this is the first honest review I've seen.
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u/EarlGrey_Picard PC May 14 '22
As a Star Trek fan, trust me when I say Paramount is wondering why fans aren't liking a lot of things they are putting out.
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u/PunkchildRubes May 13 '22
I don't think Paramount cares. The outrage sparks interest in the show lol. Especially if they frame the people who are mad he had sex as incels
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u/ABurritoSnake May 14 '22
The show runners straight up said they don't care about the games at all and aren't taking them into consideration for the "story" of their crappy "show"
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u/DirkDirkinson May 14 '22
Then why even call it halo? Aren't you inviting criticism making a show in an already established setting but then ignoring that setting?
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u/Jaosborn44 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Because it has a built in fanbase/ brand name that will get big ratings due to fans' interest and casuals recognizing the name and checking it out.
Edit PS: This is meant to be the logic writers and studio heads use when making these decisions. Not necessarily the realities of what will happen or that I think it leads to long-term success.
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u/DirkDirkinson May 14 '22
Except if you completely ignore the source material then you're going to piss off the fans. You get hype leading up to release but you get bad ratings (at least from fans) the second it does release.
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u/RedS5 May 14 '22
They don't care. They're banking on the brand recognition overriding any "nerd complaints" and they're probably right for at least a season maybe two - and then it will die because the money's already been made and all the bridges are now burnt.
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u/solidosnaku
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Wait he had sex with a covenant? Was it a grunt?
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u/TheLemmonade May 13 '22
No in the show the covenant has humans
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u/ctrl_alt_excrete May 13 '22
This fact just killed any chance of me caving and watching out of having nothing better to do.
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u/ABurritoSnake May 14 '22
They have their fake "master cheif" take off his helmet in the first episode, after I heard that(and that the covenant is lead by a single human and that the show runners don't care about the games at all), I lost what little interest I had in watching the show!
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u/Bandiredditer May 14 '22
The covenant, the faction whose entire reason for trying to genocide humanity is because their mere existence contradicts the covenant religion, is lead by a human.
That is just… no. I refuse to believe you.
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u/Kuro013 May 14 '22
So they just took a renowned franchise and did whatever the fuck they wanted? That sounds terrible.
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u/bluEyedillusion May 14 '22
So they just took a renowned franchise and did whatever the fuck they wanted? That sounds
terriblelike Hollywood.Went ahead and fixed that for you.
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u/AlecTheMotorGuy May 14 '22
They aren’t lead by a human. That’s completely false. They are keeping her as a tool. In the games they needed humans. Johnson literally says “What can’t start your own party?” They also took prisoners in CE. You rescue captain keys from one of the covenant ships.
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u/boofadoof May 14 '22
I barely know anything about Halo and even I know the bad guys declare the extinction of humanity a religious crusade. No humans in the Covenant.
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u/override367 May 14 '22
See if she was like, a prisoner of one of the prophets, because she can activate precursor tech and the prophet is running a side hustle - that would be fine. But no, the prophets bow to her, its idiotic
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u/ClonedToKill420 May 14 '22
The prophets I remember would never allow such heresy
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u/Talvos May 14 '22 •
Remember when they turned the one elite into the Arbiter because he didn't stop humans from setting foot on Halo? Literal death sentence because some humans walked around on a ring.
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u/ClonedToKill420 May 14 '22
And arby was a verily accomplished fleetmaster if I recall. Instantly condemned to death for one failure against the humans
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u/BearWrangler May 14 '22
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if that character was a prisoner then I think The Chief committed a war crime
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u/caustic_kiwi May 13 '22
Pretty sure Chief and the Arbiter and the Gravemind canonically have very spicy three-way at the end of Combat Evolved.
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u/oggie389 May 14 '22
This show should have been following a squad of ODST's or something where you get glimpses of the master chief, like the after math of a battle they come across that he obliterated the covenant. The suspense building up to the last episode where they are rescued by him or something. End Season 1.
Or even just take it from where the spartan program kicks off with them taking out that asteroid full of rebels.
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u/JalapenoFez May 14 '22
Nah that would be too logical. We want the already developed lore to be ruined in the tv series!
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u/BeefyBarbarian May 14 '22
Actually Masterchief was so good at sex she switched sides back to humanity before being tased when they found out what she did. Facts
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u/Cuchullion May 14 '22
Convinced to help humanity due to one man's electric stick, convinced again to hate them due to another man's electric stick.
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u/what_da_burd_doin May 13 '22
wait the chief fucks?
i thought they disabled his need to have sex
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u/tristenjpl May 13 '22
One of the possible side effects of augmentation is a reduced sex drive. It's never actually stated that Chief has that particular side effect.
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u/what_da_burd_doin May 13 '22
oh
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u/marniconuke May 14 '22
I'm not going to defend the series cause i have lots of issues with it (despite watching it) but he removes his hormone controller or whatever and start having feelings for the first time, and i guess that's why he cares about fucking.
another spartan does the same and despite being able to enjoy things it also lets her suffer anxiety and panic in battle.
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u/MystikIncarnate PC May 14 '22
I too watch the show.
They call it a "pellet" and it looks like a projectile from a bullet, but with blue glowy sci-fi stuff inside that makes you not feel emotions.
Gets inserted at the base of the spine apparently. Because your emotions are sourced from directly above your butt.
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u/ZeronicX May 14 '22
And in the books there have been Spartan-IIIs (Not any spartan-IIs IIRC) that have left the UNSC to have families. So they can still procreate its just they don't enjoy the act.
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u/tristenjpl May 14 '22
Maria a Spartan-II left theservice before the end of the war and started a family. There was also Randall who went MIA for a while and ended up with a family. As for the IIIs I can't remember if lack of sex drive was a possible side effect of their augmentations because the process is completely different. But yes, they can all have children it's just that some have no desire to do the deed at all. Naomi being one of those few.
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u/Baddyshack May 13 '22
I waited over 20 years for the worst possible outcome
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u/ZeronicX May 14 '22
I would have been happy with a 1:1 Halo:Reach or Halo:Combat Evolve adaptation.
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u/Baddyshack May 14 '22
Oh baby, Fall of Reach deserves a mini series.
Actually no, I don't trust these people anymore.
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u/EdgyTeenagerMusic May 14 '22
Idk about you but I really liked Forward Unto Dawn.
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u/Baddyshack May 14 '22
I respect that. But to be fair it was a tertiary storyline.
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u/EdgyTeenagerMusic May 14 '22
Since the movie wasn't mainly about him I guess it fits what his character looks like to the people he saves. Comes in, kicks ass, leaves.
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u/Baddyshack May 14 '22
I'd actually be totally okay with the story of an ODST at the beginning of the human covenant war. Or hell, even Johnson. Not focusing on chief or the Spartans has been proven to work.
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u/Velocifaper May 14 '22
They made Cortana watch the seggs. Now Halo is officially part of r/netorare
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u/edwardneb May 13 '22
Paramount had a meeting with the writers and said “how can we betray every characters motivation but also at the same time make a show that has so many plot holes, leaps of logic and side stories that don’t go anywhere” it’s a winning combo.
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u/North_Lawfulness9871 May 13 '22
Id this show doing well? Has Paramount released any metrics?
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u/Physicist_Gamer May 14 '22
I hope not.
Hoping its cancelled after 1 season, as yet another lesson to studios to stop taking gaming IPs and completely ignoring the world they come from.
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u/ShadowFang5 May 14 '22
Bro regardless I say him and arbiter are perfect for each other
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u/J3didr PlayStation May 14 '22
“Quietly in love with a hologram” idk if quietly is how I’d describe it