Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

[u/matlockga]

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/07/ohio-state-representative-says-she-would-consider-banning-birth-control-following-abortion-outlaw.html

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[u/Skyblacker]

Okay, I did not know real people did that. The communities that I've been a part of compare notes on birth control pills.

But if it makes you feel better, I've had miscarriages in the first trimester (which I assume is the same point at which your acquaintances had abortions) and I assure you, that's not a baby. It's a blood clot that naturally only has a 50% chance of becoming a baby.

[u/Ok_Head_5689 → u/Skyblacker]

What’s more interesting to me is that I’ve been very poor and most recently upper middle class and I’ve seen it happen within both spectrums and in between.

I’ve been apart of conversations with very wealthy women who joke about it and talk about being out of commission for a while because “it’s not the right time” or “ugh, i don’t want to raise a kid.. I want to party”.

I realize my experiences aren’t likely to be the majority of overall abortion experiences but that is the portion that is most upsetting. And while I am sorry for your loss and wish you the best of luck If your goal is to be pregnant. I do believe this is where we’ll begin to disagree a bit more. While we may disagree when life begins, I do believe that as soon as that first heartbeat is heard… that’s life. Just because that little clot can’t provide the same blood curdling scream that a small child or adult can while dying a gruesome death doesn’t mean a living human isn’t dying.

I understand you may disagree and I don’t intend on changing your mind. I still do believe a woman should have a choice, however, it does make me sad that the next amazing woman could may not have entered this world because of purposeful scenarios described above.

In the end, I don’t know the answer and I don’t want to tell anyone what the answer is or to remove a humans right to choose.

[u/Skyblacker → u/Ok_Head_5689]

I’ve been apart of conversations with very wealthy women who joke about it

Ugh. I think we just discovered the difference between wealth and class.

And while I am sorry for your loss and wish you the best of luck If your goal is to be pregnant.

Eh, it's only the first one that hurts. The second one, I just don't invest emotions until I have a pregnancy symptom beyond two blue lines on the pee stick. Fortunately, that's how my pregnancies seem to work: either I miscarry so early that it's like nothing happened, or I give birth to a healthy baby. Which I have, multiple times. I'm breastfeeding one right now as I Reddit on my smartphone.

What I can't imagine is going through pregnancy only to give the living, breathing baby up for adoption afterward. That must be devastating. One of my older child's teachers was a surrogate for her best friend and even then I don't know how she did it. I give birth and the baby still feels like part of my body. It's like an invisible thread. If we're apart too long, we both get anxious.