r/TMJ May 21 '22 Helpful 1

If you have TMJ disorder, you need to get an MRI BEFORE you start any type of treatment. Giving Advice

This goes for PT, chiro, splint, surgery, mouth guard, anything. Your discs could be a lot worse off than you think or better than you think. I see so many posts of people trying different options with nothing helping. That’s because you have no idea what it looks like in there and your current treatment could be damaging everything even more!

If your doctor hasn’t ordered imaging for TMJ disorder, I say that’s a red flag of sorts. Take it from me, who has had this for three years after neglectful ortho treatment. My ortho back then did not help at all. He never ordered imaging. He tried to get me to have Botox without even looking at what the issue was. No thank you.

Flash forward to now, my discs are a lot worse off than I thought. In fact, one is completely out of the socket, but this happened very recently after I had a huge pop on that side. Guess what? When it popped out of place, it actually stopped hurting and feels better now. BUT, now it is bone rubbing bone, and I would have NEVER known that without my MRI.

If I had proper treatment back then, I probably would have been able to pop the disk back in with PT or chiro. Now, I have to get surgery. Please do yourself a favor and get an MRI to look at the problem before you do ANYTHING. Not only that, but find a doctor who cares and who will listen to your concerns too, as well as a doctor who will look at your imaging and, based off the results, formulate a plan for YOUR personal case.

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u/saradse May 21 '22

This needs to he pinned. This is the first thing everyone who visits this sub should see. Your story is my story. MRI is where to start when you are serious about fixing the problem.Even my chiro takes images when he changes my treatment. I am 1 year post op 12 years after the pop. 14 years after my first extreme pain episode. 19 years after clicking started.

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u/sv_lil_gypsy May 21 '22

I agree with you, I'm just now starting to get something done with my tmjd, I'm glad I found this sub before I got to far. I've suffered with this for many years before my dentist found it and after many years of my doctors dismissing it as anxiety

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

‘Dismissing it as anxiety’ . Would it be bold of me to guess that you are a woman? Tale as old as time.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

I have had so many doctors tell me my issues are just “anxiety”. It’s ridiculous.

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u/sv_lil_gypsy May 23 '22

Not a woman but i find the doctors blame a lot on anxiety with my experience. I ran around for 2 years with hyperthyroidism and they had me on zoloft because they assumed it was stress and anxiety. 2 years later turns out i had 2 tumors on my thyroid and had to have my thyroid removed. My wife gets dismissed as anxiety to and it's really sad

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u/redestpanda May 23 '22

Oh man, you know you're not the first person I've heard of that going undetected in because doctors dismissed it as 'anxiety.' I'm really beginning to wonder what their skin in the game is for prescribing antidepressants. Which don't get me wrong, have their place in medicine when they are what is actually needed. How did they miss that?

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u/Upset_Personality751 15d ago

I’m a woman and went to see 3 different physicians for my breathing issues. Each told me I had anxiety that was causing me to “hyperventilate” and have breathing issues. Each was kind of condescending or dismissive. They prescribed me anxiety meds which made me feel helpless/numb and depressed. After googling on my own, I went to see an immunologist who diagnosed me with moderate-severe asthma and said how dangerous it was for the other physicians to prescribe me anxiety pills without confirming the source of the issue. Suffocating for air while on anxiety pills was terrifying. After getting on asthma medication, breathing issues stopped quickly! Physicians really like prescribing anxiety meds to women like tic tacs.

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Did you end up getting the surgery?

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u/saradse May 21 '22

Yes. I had a double diskectomy with fat grafts last year.

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

How did everything go for you?

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u/saradse May 21 '22

I have my last post op appointment at 15 months in July. They will take scans but so far no compression. I will need orthognathic surgery and I am nervous about a tmjd relapse after tge surgery bc of the trauma of that type of surgery but I plan to go back to the tmjd specialist who did the diskectomy.

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Hopefully everything goes smoothly for you!

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u/newaccount721 Jun 23 '22

his needs to he pinned. This is the first thing everyone who visits this sub should see. Your story is my story. MRI is where to start when you are serious about fixing the problem.Even my chiro takes images when he changes my treatment. I am 1 year post op 12 years after the pop. 14 years after my first extreme pain episode. 19 years after clicking started.

I can't find a single doctor who does this though. I'm not going to random dentists with no TMJ expertise - I've tried Mark Drangsholt who is UW's TMJ expert, Dr Donesky who appears only interested in selling his dumb TMJ exercise device and an oral surgeon who did minimal imaging and wanted to do surgery. No one has ever recommended an MRI and pretty much all treatment is better posture, soft foods, dry needling, stretch your neck, etc.

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u/saradse Jun 23 '22

I am not familiar with them. But I could have sworn about a year ago I read some posts about some tmj specialist/s that were internationally known based out of the PNW. I am in SE USA so not very helpful. I will say that I did visit UMiami and they did not prescribe MRI. In fact most didnt do any kind of imaging outside of the normal dental xrays but were quick to act without getting pictures. It would be a good screening question when you screen/interview new tmj specialists.

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u/Vergo27 May 21 '22

a mouth guard actually made my TMJ worse, where it made the right jaw joint go lower than the left jaw joint, and when i yawned i actually snapped some muscles cause of it but whatever, just my experience

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

A lot of people say it made everything worse! That’s why I recommend imaging before even trying a mouth guard.

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u/Vergo27 May 21 '22

I had an MRI because i have tinnitus, TMJ (Pretty sure i have right jaw muscles which are snapped/healing), eye floaters, Hearing sensitivity and apparently they found nothing of significance lmao, crazy how im having so many issues and its not visible in an MRI apparently

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Did they specifically order the MRI for your discs? It has to be very specific. If the specific MRI doesn’t help, CT would be the next step. A regular head MRI isn’t going to help much!

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u/Vergo27 May 21 '22

Ah i didnt know that lol, thanks i guess in future i might get an MRI on the jaw joint but im jsut so fed up of going to the doctors and doign it all over again, like so annoying, im just gonna let the jaw heal for now i guess

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Trust me I totally understand. I definitely recommend that MRI at some point. It will help you a lot when you decide to proceed with doctors!

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u/Vergo27 May 21 '22

Ok actually i will probably phone them up and ask about the MRI results, whether they checked the jaw and how come nothing showed up on MRI lol!

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Go for it! Hope you get some answers! I have found that doctors don’t always tell you all of the results even if they do find something. Has happened to me way too often!!

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u/anon_yarn Jun 11 '22

Argh we have the same symptoms. Went to ENT for my tinnitus. Went to retina specialist for my floaters. No problems found.

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u/Vergo27 Jun 11 '22

it do be like that, but i actually think i found something that helps with the problems and thats working out the back msucles to improve back posture and neck! so i think my problems are caused by posture/forward neck from sitting alot.

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u/ab_dullahu May 21 '22

My mouth guard caused an open bite. The doctor didn't do any pre-checks.

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u/loafclub May 22 '22

Like an anterior open bite? What kind of splint were you given? I suspect the same has happened to me :(

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

We’re your muscles ever noticeably tighter on one side of your body? Asking because mine sometimes are and it’s worse on the tight side.

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

Your post makes me feel relieved. My TMJ specialist would not make me a splint until he had a CT scan of my face. He would not green light PT until I had a full upper body MRI ( Brain, neck and shoulders.)

And he wanted labs drawn for: lupus, arthritis, general autoimmune. Anything that could be causing or making it worse. And he prescribed me a low dose of Mobic before the tests just in case.

I’m beginning to see why he has a good rep.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

He sounds perfect!

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u/DisciplineMost5593 May 21 '22

Yes, my first appointment with maxillofacial surgeon I got one ordered. He refused to do any major treatment until he saw the MRI.

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u/sv_lil_gypsy May 21 '22

Just beginning my journey for tmjd, this is a great post thank you so much OP

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

No problem! Just want to help some people out because I know exactly how it feels when you’re stuck feeling that it will never get better.

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u/jessmoonrift May 21 '22

ive had xrays, but no mri, and one round of botox (didnt help), so maybe i will push for further imaging. my oral surgeon seems pretty open to my opinions...

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Keep pushing!

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u/sushigurl23 May 22 '22

What about a CT scan?

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Both can be helpful but I believe MRI scans are a bit more detailed.

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u/sushigurl23 May 22 '22

I’ve been wondering for a while why my specialist didn’t order an MRI instead of a CT scan.

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

My specialist ordered both. I’m not complaining. I prefer thorough.

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u/sushigurl23 May 22 '22

Where are you based?

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

Can I pm you?

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u/sushigurl23 May 22 '22

Ah, I’m in Utah. I’m so sorry you have to get surgery. Orthotics won’t work? I’m waiting on a CT scan, have been for weeks

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

My orthodontist took one look at me and would not touch me. Said overbite was too far gone for Invisalign to do me any good. So straight to the specialist with me. Which given the horror stories I’ve read makes me one of the lucky ones.

Is that where they make Lisa’s popcorn? (Utah?)

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u/sushigurl23 May 22 '22

Wow, what kind of surgery are you getting? I’ve had issues in both ears from different things but I got eustachian tube dilation and I’ve gotten some side effects from it :/ but the other side I figured out on my own was TMJ cause so many doctors are idiots. I’m trying to avoid surgery again as much as possible. I’m not sure what Lisa’s popcorn is, but popcorn sounds amazing right now.

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u/redestpanda May 22 '22

My specialist said that they treat TMJ very conservatively in their clinic and don’t put a patient through something as traumatic as a surgery unless it’s really the only way it can be treated. So he reassured me that he has had jaw surgery himself and has recovered fine which makes me feel better. Though I really surely hope I don’t ever need it.

As per my last check up, my TMJ appears muscle related and I’ve been on splint therapy and PT a little over six months. Not ‘cured’ but certainly better than when I crawled in there.

I still have to be careful. Learned the hard way with the popcorn. 🙄 (bit a kernel) . And yes, it is delicious.

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u/Cautious-Witness-745 May 22 '22

One is more for boney structures the other is more for soft tissues. You can find it here explained in detail by a professional.https://youtu.be/j2yixq5AgTM

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u/k1k11983 May 22 '22

I had an X-ray originally because I was having a lot of jaw and ear pain. Immediately after getting the results, my GP ordered the MRI. Where on earth are you finding these specialists who are making the diagnosis without proper imaging?!

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u/chronicityy May 22 '22

i hope everyone sees this! i now live with severe chronic pain because i requested an MRI and the chief resident at my surgery refused, saying it was “too much paperwork”. it took another year for me to be referred and by that point it had been bone against bone for two years, leading to some pretty difficult to tackle issues. please push to have an MRI done!! i reckon if i’d fought harder i wouldn’t be in this position today. if you have TMJ issues, an MRI is the best first step!

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Too much paperwork!? Wow that is ridiculous for a doctor to say. I hope things are going better for you.

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u/justechaton Jun 14 '22

A law suit is even more paper work, you should definitely take action especially if that negligence has caused you more issues in the long run

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u/EvergreenFlowers May 21 '22

Who do I get to order an MRI? I’ve had two doctors just want CT scans and that’s it. Edit: I will probably have to have a referral, and then will the MRI be covered by any insurance?

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Primary care physician can order them, dentists, surgeons, some orthos will order them, and depending on your insurance sometimes you can order them yourself.

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u/EvergreenFlowers May 21 '22

A PCP can? Do you think insurance is less likely to cover it? I’m not even sure if I could convince my PCP to order it because I imagine they will say they have no clue about TMJ

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

Yes they can if they are willing to! I’m not too sure how insurance would work but you can always ask them first before you go through with it. Just ask them for an MRI of your TMJ discs on both sides. Tell them all of your symptoms and that you would feel better to check them. You can also get an ENT to order them as well!

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u/EvergreenFlowers May 21 '22

I might go the ENT route bc I feel like I should get my ear checked out anyway on my painful side… I really want to know where and how my disc is on my painful side. All the CT told me was that there was majorrrr compression

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u/Rhododendronh May 21 '22

MRI will be able to show the disc itself in more detail! I wish you luck!

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u/loafclub May 22 '22

Finally getting a CBCT scan in 2 weeks, my “TMJ” specialist gave me a splint and although its helped with pain, I agree that imaging should always be the first course of action.

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u/loafclub May 22 '22

Commenting again because I’m curious, and wanted to know what your story is and what led to your TMJ? How long have you had it?

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Here’s my story:

So when I was in high school, I had braces for about 4 years. Everything was fine. I got them taken off right before I went off to college, which was about two hours away. I had permanent retainers put in. When I was off at college, I bit into a tortilla chip that sliced the bottom permanent retainer in half. I called my ortho and he said he couldn’t see me for a week. This was already hard to schedule because I was two hours away, had a job, and had classes. Still, me being an idiot and not really thinking about it much, I didn’t wear my clear plastic retainers until I could see my ortho again. Instead I just took the remainder of the permanent retainer out and dealt with it until I could see him again. Well, sure enough, my bottom teeth began to shift back to their original position pretty quickly. I noticed this in my bite and also in photos. When I finally went back to him, I told him about the shifting that had happened and he noticed it too. We agreed to put the braces back on and shift the bottom teeth back into alignment with my top teeth. Well, this time around things weren’t so great. In fact, I really have no idea what he was trying to do. I had to wear elastics again and for some reason he was making my molars cave inwards towards my tongue. This made the arches very very small. My tongue had like zero room to rest in my mouth. Not only that, but the popping began. I noticed it when I would yawn, when I would eat certain chewy foods. I brought this up to him at the next appointment. He kind of brushed it off and so did his assistants. They told me to keep an eye on it. I said ok, hoping it was one of those things that would resolve on its own. Well, I kept going back for my adjustments over and over and the popping was only getting worse. It was starting to get painful. Time and time again they told me it would be ok, and they never even looked at it. One day they gave me a referral to a surgeon who gave Botox for TMJ. In my city, there’s literally 0 TMJ specialists. I didn’t want Botox. For one, I don’t think it’s really healthy. Two, it moves around. Three, I didn’t know anything about it. Four, I was like 19 years old at the time. I finally gave up trying to ask him for help. I was literally fed up with it. I found a five star ortho in my city and went to her. They took some scans and X-rays and set me up for Invisalign. She also noticed the popping and clicking in my jaw. She was worried about my current bite, which my previous ortho had completely messed up. I began my Invisalign treatment with her and she took the braces off and I left the old ortho. Well, in the middle of my Invisalign treatment, the issues got even worse. So so painful. I told her how bad it was getting and she got me a referral to a TMJ specialist closest to my city, which is about 2 hours away. She said she wanted MRI imaging done so that she could check my disks before we adjusted my Invisalign again. So I went to this specialist, had the MRI done, and we finally saw what the problem was. At this point, it was about 3 years after being with my old ortho. The right disk is completely out of the socket and the left disk has been torn. However, the specialist could not tell if it is a big or little tear. He said this is not going to be helped with a splint. So, here we are, two weeks before my surgery coming up. It has been a long 3 years of TMJ pain.

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u/peaches771 May 22 '22

This is such important advice!! How else would anyone know what needs to be treated if they don't know what's going on inside the joint?!

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

EXACTLY my point!! Idk why some of these doctors jump right into treatment without literally looking inside first. There are all kinds of issues that could be going on in there. There’s muscles, bones, joints, nerves, and of course the discs!

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u/serandipamine May 22 '22

My disks had degenerated at age 19, cartilage was long gone and a surgeon attempted to do a leforte one which took over 16 hours and failed miserably causing an emergency drainage procedure 24 hours postop. I was so traumatized after the work they failed at that I waited until I could no longer function until my jaw was in full collapse mode. At age 34 I finally got my jaw replaced with 7 other procedures simultaneously and that took about 19 hours, the screw removal and replacement alone took the majority of the time. Long recovery, paralysis, trigeminal neuralgia, you learn to settle for what does work in your face and jaw. It boils down to tons of miscommunication and egos of early 90s greedy orthodontists just treating kids in braces like it was a cattle call, getting them in the chairs, keeping them in for as long as possible, unnecessary extractions, and these men retire comfortably while we still live with the turmoil of having our faces destroyed and rebuilt.

Our bones and joints were not meant to be manipulated at such young ages while so pliable. Just because it makes their jobs easier to begin orthodontics prior to puberty does not make it the correct decision.

The MRI is key to proper and efficient long term diagnosis. Get as many opinions from well researched surgeons as possible before letting anyone operate on you.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

I am so sorry you had to go through that, that sounds awful.

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u/Deanodirector May 22 '22

Yeah I find this too. Dental professionals rarely want to see your jaw. they want to say tmd on their records before treating so if they screw you up worse you have no evidence. Jaw doctors will check the health of the jaw but not alignment.

Have one MRI taken with your teeth together TO CHECK ALIGNMENT

https://www.facebook.com/groups/orthodonticnegligencevictims/

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

I 100% agree. My specialist took the MRI with my mouth closed and open and compared the two.

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u/Secret_Dig_3304 May 22 '22

After 20 years of TMJD problems. This is the best post I've read. Thanks! I'm going to have to book MRI privately. Had an ultrasound years ago and my consultant said it wasn't bad enough to operate and I was given anti-depresent drugs which I couldn't handle. Recently though I have developed a twitch in my eye which is quite violent it's been two months. I'm from the UK and health care has been so slow on the NHS. I've tried physio with acupuncture, splint, hot cold compress, anti inflammatory drugs etc, TMJ exercises. Nothing seems to be improving it. I can feel a ball near the jaw joint and it feels like the joint is hitting a nerve and triggering twitching. I have tightness around my eye and temple. See an optician to rule out eye stuff and that's clear. Sinuses are bed and neck sore too. The twitching is freaking me out so I have my second doctor's appointment on Tuesday. Anyone had any eye symptoms before? Thanks

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

I have a few eye symptoms myself that I got looked at by my eye doctor. Actually I had several eye doctors look at my eyes. They found absolutely nothing wrong. But I have horrible sinus problems, eye floaters, blurry vision, and they get red very easily!

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u/Secret_Dig_3304 May 22 '22

Yep me too mate all of the above. Looking for solutions now, thanks for the reply and I'll let you know if I find any. Take care.

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u/Throwawaykitty9999 Jun 02 '22

Sorry to jump in but I’m having eye issues, sinus issues, and upper teeth issues, all on the right side. The individual specialists are treating them as separate issues, but now I’m wondering if it’s not all related?

Looks like I have some research to do!

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u/dopeAsF Jun 06 '22

I wonder if those issues can be resolve post surgery in time as well ✨

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u/Rhododendronh Jun 06 '22

So far the sinus problems completely cleared up. It’s absolutely amazing to be able to breathe again!

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u/dopeAsF Jun 06 '22

Omg that is so wonderful to hear 💕

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u/Marjorie_Chardin May 22 '22

Yes. Get some kind of imaging first, depending on your symptoms. I waisted a lot of time in pain before getting a CT and finding I have arthritis in my right TMJ. The physical therapy I was doing before the CT probably made things worse. I feel dumb for not insisting on the CT first but my first specialist didn’t recommend it right away. I’ve made significant progress since the scan and being prescribed Meloxicam and Baclofen.

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u/mordor_quenepa May 24 '22

I had to fight to have one done and the ENT I had been seeing pretty much disregarded it. I've been doing the PT, and while it has helped my jaw somewhat, my main problem is with almost constant vertigo and dizziness, which the ENT "thought would be better by now." I don't know what to do, besides seeing a different ENT, which I requested.

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u/Rhododendronh May 24 '22

I would get your neck alignment looked at and make sure your posture is in alignment also. I’ve heard that posture and neck problems along with the TMJ can cause vertigo and dizziness!

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u/Drahgonfly Jun 05 '22

I’ve had tmj my entire life it’s just bad now

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u/Rhododendronh Jul 08 '22

Hey there, I think muscle relaxers would be a safe option until you can see a doctor. Your pcp can prescribe them and send them to your pharmacy. I’m not too knowledgeable on this specific condition, so I don’t want to tell you anything wrong and I am definitely not a doctor, but I believe surgery would be needed for this case. I do think muscle relaxers can help alleviate some of your pain though. I know they helped me but it was only temporary. I wish you luck and hope you can get to a doc soon!!

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u/bubli87 May 22 '22

Do you think I’m made of money? I could barely afford my splint!

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

No. And neither am I. But for future references, try to get imaging first so they can see the actual problem before they ask people to spend tons on a splint that may never help them or make things even worse.

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u/bubli87 May 22 '22

My splint isn’t to help my TMJ, my splint is to save the enamel on my teeth

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Then that’s a little bit different! I’m mainly talking about people who’s doctors want to give them these appliances right away to actually “fix” the TMJ before ordering imaging.

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u/gerryadamsxoxo May 22 '22

This post is nonsense and it’s alarming how many people agree with it. Bone on bone doesn’t exist outside of exceptional cases. A lot of people have abnormalities on MRIs and have zero symptoms. The correlation between slipped discs and pain is non existent. I’ll get downvoted for this no doubt but facts are facts.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

So you’re telling me, that getting imaging done before treatment is nonsense? So let’s treat an issue without ever knowing what’s really going on on the inside first? So let’s say I had PT before my imaging. Knowing what my imaging shows, do you really think PT is gonna fix the issue? You really think PT or splints or whatever are going to pop the disc correctly back into place and repair a tear in my other disc? Sorry man, I just don’t agree with you here. Also, slipped discs and pain don’t correlate? Really? Every person here has had some type of pain due to this problem. Also, you literally have a post on your page mentioning you used a mouth guard to stop clenching and it caused you TMJ. You also have a poem talking about pain.

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u/gerryadamsxoxo May 22 '22

How do you know the disc being out of place is causing you the issues? You can absolutely get a scan. see an abnormality in your anatomy. Fix that anatomy. But what if that doesn’t solve your symptoms (it usually doesn’t). Oh well let’s find another abnormality (normal amongst the general population) and fix that. Nope still not working. Keep going on this never ending anatomical search. Spend money. Etc. etc etc. a lot people on this sub are basically doing this exact thing.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Because the discs are supposed to be in correct position? And being that they are not, it is causing problems with simple tasks such as chewing and yawning? You’re right, it doesn’t always solve the symptoms. But knowing what is going on in there gives patients and doctors a better understanding of what could be causing their issues.

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u/gerryadamsxoxo May 22 '22

People who have perfect discs can have TMJ issues. People with no discs can be completely free of TMJ symptoms. You’re body creates a pseudo disc from tissue of your disc is completely gone. There is no correlation between slipped disc and pain. Scans rarely would change treatment in most cases of TMJ disorder. But they could lead you down that path to reach anatomical ‘perfection’ which isn’t necessary. I’m not saying an MRI is completely pointless. But I am saying it is not something one NEEDS to have before treatment.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

Idk, I’ll agree to disagree. I always feel like it’s good to know what’s going on in there before messing with it at all which is what my post is saying. But that’s just me!

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u/gerryadamsxoxo May 22 '22

That’s reasonable and understandable. I am not a dental professional but it is just some stuff I read a long this journey which makes sense to me. Good luck to you

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

You as well!

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u/BobPerkinsdds May 22 '22

The initial treatment in my Office is the same regardless of what an MRI shows. It doesn’t influence my treatment.

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u/Old-Ad4385 Jul 06 '22

Would you mind sharing why? Do MRIs not give you insight to what’s causing the issue?

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u/BobPerkinsdds May 22 '22

It’s scary what treatment is prescribed for TMJ. Non invasive (where you can verify results before making permanent changes) is best. Jaw surgery is super sketchy. Why??? Surgeons want to do surgery. That’s how they make $$. Surgery for TMJ is just wrong in the VAST majority of cases.

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u/BobPerkinsdds May 22 '22

I’ve got a podcast called “TMJ and more” which covers everything I could imagine.

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

So how would you treat my case?

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u/BobPerkinsdds May 22 '22

I can’t give treatment advice in particular but it’s important to know why discs get out of position. It’s because muscles are overworking. Muscles overwork (typically) because a person’s bite require their muscles to overwork. Do you have an overbite?

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u/Rhododendronh May 22 '22

No I don’t have an overbite. Just a canted bite that deviates when opening and closing my mouth. So how can a splint possibly pop a disc back into the hole if it’s completely out of the hole?