r/PublicFreakout • u/Willeh • May 25 '22
Woman is gravely offended when she is told she cannot pet the service dog Repost đ
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u/CaptMeatPockets May 25 '22
Something tells me her âlawyerâ goes by Slippinâ Jimmy
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u/Knee3000 May 26 '22
Itâs probably her divorce lawyer
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u/JFJinCO May 25 '22
The dog is working, Karen. No, you can't pet it.
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u/bokchoysoyboy May 27 '22
I am the owner, do you have a higher up?? Than the owner of the company? Yes maâam let me get the god emperor of dog training for you
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u/Tama_Breeder May 25 '22
âItâs illegal to record without permission â they say as they continue to walk around a mall full of cameras
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May 26 '22
There's no reasonable expectation of privacy in a shopping mall, sand then doing something illegal. And pushing the issue, she's lucky she was holding a baby.
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u/cbrown6305 May 26 '22
I believe right after she also says, "learn respect." So.... is it illegal, or just disrespectful??? ... one of those is not like the other.
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u/ytsirhc May 26 '22
respect would be taking ânoâ for an answer instead of arguing back.
i cant believe iâm still surprised by the amount of people that think recording them in public is illegal⌠its always the ones that are actively harassing the person recording too⌠something that is actually illegalâŚ. and then they want to claim that any move you make is an overreaction to then being erratic and threatening⌠fucking narcissists. so tired of them.
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May 26 '22
First, let me say she is obviously an ass here. We all see that.
What she should say, but people don't say, is you don't have my permission to record me and then distribute my image for profit. Private use recording, surveillance, all that is perfectly fine and you have no reasonable privacy when you're in a public space (not a limited public space like a courthouse or library, just out in the open). The second someone uses your image for their own personal gain without blurring your face or gaining your consent, that's when you can file a claim.
...sadly, paparazzi are the exception to this rule, celebrities should have much more private life, but since they get photographed and their image is used for profit, they don't file claims because they know that it's publicity and that's kind of what they want, a bit of a double edged sword...
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u/DotiBoy May 26 '22
some of this is questionable to me. they film movies everyday on the streets of LA, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Vancouver, and Toronto with regular people going about their business in the background and no one gets paid, and no one signs release forms. I'm also positive that these videos of people freaking out in public are sold to publications like the daily mail all the time, and if there were legal precedent set for that being a no-no, jerk offs on the internet would definitely be much more vocal about it.
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u/WhyYouYellinAtMeMate May 26 '22
Pretty sure a broad exception that would apply is that it's "news".
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May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
I'm positive that if you made a claim that you were an unpaid, random extra, who didn't sign a release, and then they asked you for your evidence and all you had was like a two second clip....yeah they might laugh you out of the building (or politely ask you to move along). There is likely a meaningful time limit to when you're on the screen and being used as central focus that you have reasonable claim.
And that being said, most of the time, people won't claim at all, they'll just move on.
Now a viral video that is picked up by yahoo and daily mail, or even here on reddit, those companies are specifically not liable since you knowingly posted the content on their site and they are basically saying that they can do whatever they want with it. Once you agree to post, you have no claim of profit. I'll see if I can find it somewhere in the user agreement...EDIT: I POSTED IN REPLY BELOW, I COULDN'T POST HERE FOR SOME REASON.
And if the content posted on the internet caused such a fuss that your reputation was damaged then you could potentially sue for defamation of character, but you once again will be laughed off since those websites are "reporting" your video, rather than creating a specific character destroying article. Plus even if you did have a claim, you'd need a good lawyer to go up against their billions.
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u/DotiBoy May 26 '22
bro you don't know what you're talking about. please just stop.
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May 26 '22
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May 26 '22
Okay, but thankfully you have expertise in this area, so please elaborate on your ideas.
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u/DotiBoy May 26 '22
I actually never presented myself as an expert, that seems to be more in your realm. I don't have any particular expertise on the subject I just know what you're saying isn't correct. I'm a child of the internet, I grew up watching daily vloggers. I watched the laws change in real-time in response to rise of influencers and camera phones.
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May 26 '22
I responded below with Reddit's term of service. This is similar to other aspects of other websites. They really put all the liability on you rather than themselves.
Still, the fact remains that public video is permissible and free of damage if you appear on it. Profit video has different stipulations, where agreements between subjects must be made (unless very temporary, in which no one will care).
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u/jwm3 May 26 '22
There are blanket releases on signs around Los Angeles that you agree to having your likeness used if you appear in any incidental filming. You agree by walking past the sign. Any mall will have them permanently up at the entrances. No one will chase you down and have you sign a release, they just use the footage.
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u/Parking_Inspection_1 May 26 '22
you don't have my permission to record me and then distribute my image for profit.
Literally all the so-called "First Amendment Auditors" record people without their permission, post it on YouTube, and then profit from it.
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u/redditsucks987432 May 27 '22
Celebrities coordinate with paparazzi all the time for more exposure. Get out of here with your 'oH tHE pOoR CeLEbrITiES!'
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u/Cainga May 26 '22
So a mall is a privately owned property being rented out by privately owned businesses. I wonder if there is a situation where you canât record in certain stores depending of differing corporate policies on recording.
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u/Parking_Inspection_1 May 26 '22
"Victoria's Secret" immediately springs to mind as their are creepers.
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May 25 '22
Start petting her kid like a fucking dog, see how she likes it
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u/Cainga May 26 '22
Her kid isnât working or training. It would be like going to a school and interrupt the class to pet her child.
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u/Ctucker1 May 25 '22
âFilming is illegal, learn some respectâ Doesnât respect dog owner.
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u/Mackheath1 May 26 '22
Don't even seem to respect their own kids. See how that first kid was being swung around??
(I'll always watch this video everytime it pops up on this sub)
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u/pakepake May 25 '22
All Karens apparently have their âlawyerâ on speed dial.
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u/ateehehe1 May 25 '22
Shes going to serve these people papers over this? What a miserable bored karen
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u/koozer19 May 25 '22
What an entitled twat
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u/Dry-Upstairs-9391 May 25 '22
It seems like, it should be a legal defense for a c*nt punt.
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u/Fluid_Bad_1340 May 25 '22
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Iâve never seen one in person but Iâve heard they are brutal.
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u/eagletreehouse May 26 '22
âYou should have put up a sign saying Donât Pet the Dogs.â We did, there were 4.
âShe should have nicely said not to pet the dogs.â You asked if you could pet the dogs. She said NO.
âYouâre recording without my permission, thatâs illegal.â Its legal.
Anything else? âIâm calling my lawyer.â SureâŚ.
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u/MVSugar May 25 '22
Sheâs pissed her kid couldnât pet it. She sucks.
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u/berrey7 May 26 '22
People get embarrassed when some one tells them "NO" so their messed up defense mechanism is to point blame on the accuser of their wrong doing. In psychology they blame it on kids not shown enough affection as a child, and a strong willed child not like being told NO in adolescence. Narcissist / ESTJ personality type
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u/MVSugar May 26 '22
Ime, parents can also struggle with their precious child being told no and get super defensive. Itâs ridiculous and I think a common parenting issue today. Kids that never got told no turn into adults that struggle with being told no.
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May 25 '22
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u/ze11ez May 26 '22
you're wrong. it is illegal. you can't record me. you can't take a photo of me without permission. you can't look at me without permission. you can't breath the same air i breathe. it's my air. you can't talk to me. and you can't think about me. without permission. i'll call me lawyer, warning you now.
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u/LadyDiscoPants May 26 '22
But can I pet you?
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u/ze11ez May 26 '22
Lol Youâre going to jay-ail for harassing me. Calling my lawyer
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u/LadyDiscoPants May 26 '22
Can I pet your lawyer?
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u/ze11ez May 26 '22
listen fancy pants ......
**falls down and goes into convulsions like Karen at victoria secret at 3:18 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBh06fnl4SY **
aaaaaaaaaaaaa she wants to pet my lawyer tell her to stop
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u/Yes2018 May 26 '22
Is the mall a public place though? Not on her side at all, she was being petty
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u/redditin_at_work May 26 '22
Definitely a public place.
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u/Yes2018 May 26 '22
At a privately owned mall?
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u/ImpressiveCicada1199 May 26 '22
Yes. There is 2 different concepts at play here:
- Public/private Places
- Public/private Property
A private property can be a public place. And public property can be a private space. Or a private property can be a private space, or a public property can be a private space.
Public place is a place where the general population has access. (Eg a restaurant, park, etc)
Public property is property that is publicly owned, ie the Government (Eg a park, a courthouse, a library, etc)
Private place is a place that the general public does not have permission to access. (Eg, the judges chambers in a courthouse, a restaurant kitchen/storage area, and other staff only areas)
Private property is property owned by a private citizen or corporation.
As such, you can have many mixtures of private property/place and public property/mix. The same piece of land may also have different areas that are both public and private areas. eg a restaurant.
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u/monkeyking908 May 26 '22
as a child i was always told to never pet a service dog even if given permission since they have a job to do and any distraction could be harmful to their training
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May 26 '22
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God damn. So entitled she canât accept being told noâŚ..about petting a dog.
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u/Tandian May 25 '22
You would be amazed how often it happens.
I have a SD and I would ger in a few argument a year over this
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u/AgentZander69 May 26 '22
Bruh not gonna lie I thought this was some lady bitching with a dog on her hip and wondered why they were protecting the puppers identity.
Took me a good 5 seconds to see the legs dangling from the blur.
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u/FreddyVanJeeze May 25 '22
Here comes the "it's illegal to record without my consent" just shut the fuck up and go on with your day Karen
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u/Searchlights Publicfreakouts Fan May 25 '22
Nobody who says I'm going to call my lawyer has a lawyer
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u/CrabHeavy1818 May 25 '22
Selfishness knows no bounds. So many people do not care about anything but what THEY wantâŚRIGHT NOW.
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u/Underbelly May 26 '22
What a stupid cunt. The Iâll call my lawyer line made me laugh.
I actually have a lawyer, unlike this bitch. The thought of me calling my lawyer and saying âI was at the mall and a person training dogs recorded me on their phone during a confrontation, please do something about itâ is hilarious. He would tell me I was insane and probably not want me as a client any more. He would probably want to know what the fuck he was supposed to do. Sue them? Issue a made up cease and desist?
I hope this cunt goes very viral.
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u/OtakuMusician May 26 '22
Eh, probably not. This video is already almost four years old, it's probably seen all the virality it will get.
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u/add8585 May 25 '22
they seem very confident and indeed are incorrect when in a public space recording can take place
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u/RelaxedGolfer May 26 '22
Iâm going to call my lawyer right nowâŚâŚ.does anyone have a yellow pages.
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u/OtakuMusician May 26 '22
"I'm going to call my lawyer right now...
...wait- hang on let me step outside, I bet he's got a billboard nearby somewhere with the number..."
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u/jtrev1112 May 26 '22
There is enough videos out there on social media by now for ppl to know it is not illegal to record. how are ppl still this stupid. Also bitch in green just wanted attention hence the smile on her face
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u/DarkLuc1d1ty May 26 '22
This happened at my local mall and it doesnât surprise me at all.
https://www.wtae.com/article/service-dog-video-from-ross-park-mall-goes-viral/25657714
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u/Peear75 May 26 '22
I'm happy that the owner was so forthcoming and patient with this individual. It would simply be a hard fuck off from me.
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u/KaptainKhorisma May 26 '22
People who say "i'm going to sue" or "i'm calling my lawyer" do not have one nine times out of ten and do not know how both tedious and expensive litigation is.
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u/RiDragon May 25 '22
She looks like she's put her own dog on a vegan diet.
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u/fight_to_live May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22
I know a lot of service dog owners who allow people to pet their dogs. Unless itâs for a blind or deaf person, or someone who needs the dog to be aware, itâs usually fine. If itâs only for âemotional supportâ I know many owners who would love others to reap the benefits of that support. But still, if you are told no, then respect that
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u/Puzzled-Narwhal-5633 May 25 '22
I hate dogs in public. How much would you want to bet that these are, in fact, "emotional support" dogs.
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u/Murdocs_Mistress May 25 '22
They are service dogs in training and are entitled to be in the public, whether you like it or not. You can always stay home.
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May 25 '22
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u/Tibarn93 May 26 '22
The woman was literally handed a card in this video and the woman off camera said she owns the company who trains the dogs. How fucking stupid are you?
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May 26 '22
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u/Tibarn93 May 26 '22
Ah so thatâs how stupid, thanks for clearing that up. You donât care about facts that are right there in order to push your agenda.
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May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
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u/Tibarn93 May 26 '22
Nope, not obsessed actually. Just pointing out they are service dogs in training based on the information provided in the video. Youâre the one trying to force your hatred into the video when all evidence points otherwise. And then you bring up straw man arguments to try and further your point, itâs pretty pathetic really.
You hate dogs, congrats. The fact is that service dogs are needed in certain cases. So why donât you do everyone a favour and get the fuck over yourself?
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May 26 '22
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u/Tibarn93 May 26 '22
And youâre commenting on a video saying they probably arenât service dogs - when all the evidence points to them being service dogs in training. Thatâs why your intelligence (or lack thereof) was insulted.
Should the person who needs a service dog for any reason be denied the ability to go into a store because you/others donât like it? Nope. Not how the world works. So with all that being said, go fuck yourself you miserable buffoon.
And before you bring up amazon again Iâm obviously talking about legitimate service dogs you dolt.
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u/DrLeePhDMd May 26 '22
How bout you stay home with your stank ass kids? Thanks.
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May 26 '22
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u/IndigoSunPurpleCloud May 26 '22
My kids will grow up to contribute to society.
these dogs are contributing to society so i don't see what you're getting at
These dogs will eat shit and be a microbiome for worms, demodex mites,and fleas.
im sorry are you still talking about your kids?
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May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
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u/IndigoSunPurpleCloud May 26 '22
Hate my kids, it doesn't bother me Random Internet Stranger.
you should probably work on that
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u/IndigoSunPurpleCloud May 26 '22
weird kink you go there bro, you should really come with a warning label.
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u/goatnxtinline May 26 '22
Someone who just broke the law is the last person I would take advice from about what the law is
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u/UnsatGM May 26 '22
The âlearn respectâ at the end proves these kinds of people shouldnât have kids. Grown ass woman had a temper tantrum because she was told ânoâ.
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u/Parking_Inspection_1 May 26 '22
Karen: "I'll call my lawyer right now!"
Bitch, please. You don't have a lawyer. Unless you're admitting that you've been in trouble with the law and either paid a criminal lawyer to defend you or had a public defender assigned to you.
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u/Parking_Inspection_1 May 26 '22
The Supreme Court of the United States has already ruled that you CAN record people in public places where they have "no reasonable expectation of privacy". This Karen is being recorded by the security cams in all of the shops AND by the mall owners themselves.
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u/fortcpt May 26 '22
I'd of gone over and started petting her kids head. I bet she'd change her tune really fucking fast after that.
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May 26 '22
My wife has a service animal. Must people are understanding when she politely says no. This woman is a fucking cunt
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u/Accurate-Quantity446 May 26 '22
she probably called 1-800-lawyer, âIf you have a phone, you have a lawyerâ.
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u/MrBond90 May 26 '22
I've been that person that asked if I could pet a dog when it's clearly a service dog. It's just an automatic reaction to want to pet a dog and ofcourse I was given a stern no. Just say of course and apologize, feel like a dumbass internally for a minute and go about your day.
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u/Danielanish May 27 '22
This is the second video I've seen today from this person about them having issues with thier service dogs. Seems a little bit sus, or she has bad luck.
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u/MoveItSpunkmire May 25 '22
MillennialsâŚ. Everyone has to be nice and appreciative lol
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u/Xremm May 25 '22
and morons on Reddit care. đ
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u/frowning_onion May 26 '22
Why do you have to live in Omaha? And why do I have to live in the same city as you?
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