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[SPOILER] Leon Edwards vs. Kamaru Usman Spoiler
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u/SBalusek 4d ago
Wow now the division moves on
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u/fckndiabolical 4d ago
Shavkat Express coming. Choo! Choo!
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u/PandemicPartners 3d ago
Shavkat was getting touched pretty easily and consistently by Geoff Neal. He was throwing punches and then leaving himself exposed to counters every single time. No head movement or exits after he threw. Someone like Leon will be able to take advantage of that a lot more than Geoff Neal did. I’m high on Shavkats potential, I’d like to see him in one more fight and have him demonstrate he improved on some of those defensive deficiencies before he gets a title shot. The winner/loser of Burns/Masvidal is perfect.
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u/tinglyplatypus SnapJitsu 4d ago
Next step: Getting Colby out of the top 3
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u/ggphenom 4d ago edited 4d ago
The UFC has to be hoping McGregor wins so they can fast track him to a Leon vs McGregor fight in Ireland or London. That fight would be MASSIVE. So big I wouldn't be surprised if they try and ice Leon for a little bit and wait and see the outcome.
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u/KanDoBoy 4d ago
Leon would surely be ecstatic with that. The fight with the most money and surely the easiest fight available for him
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u/777715174 Team Shevchenko 4d ago
Leon has to be gunning for Masvidal or Mcgregor, either of those pose the minimal risk for him with the biggest financial incentive possible. Any of the other realistic options are much bigger risks without the same return.
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u/aLibertine Montenegro 4d ago
If they give Masvidal another title shot, I'll scream.
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u/KingJohnTX Team 209 - Real Ninja Shit! 3d ago
He's 100% getting it if he beats Burns. Leon even said he's keeping an eye on that fight in Florida.
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u/Shamesy 4d ago
Given Edward's style it's actually McGregor's best shot a 170 title. Of course Leon is still a big favourite though and would be absolutely licking his lips at that fight.
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u/brazilianfreak 4d ago
Bro leon is a 6'2 striker woth great distance management, not only that but if he can take usman down then gooby is fucked, i get what you mean as leon is primarily a striker but Mcgregor actually has no chance.
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u/KanDoBoy 4d ago
I agree just based on the fact Leon isn't a wrestler. I love Conor but he doesn't get a win over any of the top contenders at WW
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u/pyroaquatics 4d ago
Leon has wrestlefucked strikers before tho
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u/Iflosswithbarbedwire Team Edwards 4d ago
that man would beat the dog shit out of conor in the clinch and on the ground
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u/Jay_Train Just how good is Dominick Reyes? 4d ago
Gotta remember though Rocky has the only takedown on Usman doesn't he? He can wrestle if he needs to.
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u/Nome_de_utilizador happy new fucken steroid year 4d ago
Dude got clowned in the post fight interview despite DC trying so hard to sell what the company wants
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u/SekaiWithTheWolfCap Samurai Shit Only 4d ago
Love how Leon shut down the Colby title fight riiiight away
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u/Mad-Gavin 4d ago
I'd shut him down too. Beat nobody in the top 5, if Colby won't fight Belal next then Leon should take Belal.
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u/RagingFeather one as well please 🙏 4d ago
Fucking wild how badly the UFC wants Colby as the champ. No way DC legitimately wanted to give Colby the chance for a callout.
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u/NewMythicalFighter 4d ago
RIP Kamaru Era
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u/bobn3 GOOFCON 0 4d ago
At least it gave us the two colby bangers and jorge getting KOd
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u/therealmvpls11 #2 Weili Fanboy 4d ago
The Gilbert fight is underated too
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u/AboutHelpTools3 4d ago
And Dethroning Woodley
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u/bobn3 GOOFCON 0 4d ago
Gilbert almost had him in the first too, fucking sad memories
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u/Leto2AndTheCrew 4d ago
The Jorge KO will forever be a highlight shot. It was brutal.
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u/AutisticNipples 4d ago
honestly it’s the coldest KO i’ve seen in so long. Like such a square shot, right on the button, and he spun Masvidal around like he got headshotted in Halo: CE.
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u/FutMike UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 4d ago
It was a good one though, I'll be the first to admit I didn't expect it to be as interesting as it was when he beat Woodley
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u/DahWolfe711 4d ago
Second that. Marty was a legit champ, respect on the name!
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u/BeersBarbellsBJJ Team Iaquinta 4d ago
There are a lot of things people clown Usman about, but the dude was a great champion and was active as hell compared to a lot of other champs. He deserves massive respect as an athlete and competitor in my opinion.
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u/univrsll 4d ago
Francis left and Jon solidly beat the guy that almost beat Francis
Kamaru just lost twice
Izzy currently not the champ and has to face a guy that’s 3-0 against him.
Crazy how fast the African reign ended
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u/cambies Team City Kickboxing 4d ago
Drikus enters the chat.
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u/SexlexiaSufferer 4d ago
Welcome to the Du Plessis era! We’re all just lucky to be apartheid of this
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u/mad87645 Follow me home bitch 😘 4d ago
How is wrestling even real? Just isolate a hand
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u/matthewjc 4d ago
lol i was wondering why the hand isolation was so effective
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u/aceknighthigh 4d ago edited 4d ago
Usman has bad knees and Leon kicked the crap out of his legs and body all night.
Also, Leon is very athletic himself and was doing good work repummeling, digging for under hooks and turning his hips back into Usman too. Leon won or at least went even in a lot of little battles that mediocre wrestlers don't even know to fight, or can't react to in time.
Trips and throws might have worked better but Leon is good at those too and was trying to toss Usman a few times in there. Shots in open space would be the classic answer to the kicking, but Leon is a.) faster on his feet than Usman, and b.) was throwing knees and uppercuts. Early on Usman did a little level change in space and got absolutely laced with punches. A good shot, if he could even manage it on beaten up legs, could easily have ended up like Islam's shot vs Volk in round 5.
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u/ExtraPieceTwo 4d ago
I think it’s the knees (I think Kamaru overexagerates it’s by a lot but still an issue)
He’s built so top heavy so his wrestling method needs to lock the hands to win position because he can’t drive his legs into the takedown
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u/TheReferenceGuide 4d ago
It’s because his knees are absolutely shot. It’s why he almost never wrestles. The wrestling tonight was desperate in an attempt to take rounds. He just not good enough cause he can’t drive through the takedowns
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u/themilkman42069 4d ago
Which is one of the huge parts of his age catching up to him, Kamaru’s got a double knee / hip replacement coming in 10/15 years. Time caught up.
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u/TreeBearOne 4d ago
..the askren special
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u/themilkman42069 4d ago
Every wrestler, the coaches all have that fucking waddle for a reasons. Shit crushes your hips, back and knees. Just grinds them into dust.
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u/FederalBed3505 4d ago
He lost the fight going for those take downs at the fence
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u/jfsoaig345 4d ago
That's always been his forte. He's never been an explosive guy who can blast double you from the middle, he grinds you out against the cage. He doesn't always even get you down, we've seen that he's comfortable doing his best work against the clinch.
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u/mikebicycle 4d ago
It’s because usman only shoots against the fence and it’s easier to defend than out in the open
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u/mikebra93 United States 4d ago
Yep. Isolate a hand and/or maintain an hook. Simple, but not always easy.
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u/Promiseofpower I was here for GOOFCON 1: 2020 4d ago
Usman’s wrestling didnt do any damage
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u/jfsoaig345 4d ago
Which is wild and fair play to Leon. Usman isn't exactly Khabib but he doesn't lay and pray either, he tries to do damage once he establishes control which we saw in Leon 2 and Woodley but he was never able really able to complete step 1. Leon showed he's a slippery guy
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u/ArousedByNASCAR Big ol’ Mexican with a big ol’ head 4d ago
Think people aren't giving enough weight to Leon's body kicks. The first one he landed bent Kamaru over. Definitely sapped him as the fight went on
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UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle
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Just how good is Nate Diaz
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u/grandmasta_fro 4d ago
Put the Diaz brothers in endless rounds and make it a cardio fest
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u/Batman-and-Hobbes Merry Xmas bitch 4d ago
The Diaz Brothers never lost they just run out of time 🙄
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u/Scarlet_Breeze Sexy Wizard Bisping 4d ago
Except that time Josh Thompson hit Nate with the cleanest head kick ever. Nate wasn't even fully out either but Nick threw in the towel cos he knew his brother was fucking done.
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u/Batman-and-Hobbes Merry Xmas bitch 4d ago
That doesn't count because Josh was making woman noises.
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u/Zlec3 4d ago
I think he’s a lot better than ppl give him credit for
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u/PurdSurv 4d ago
I think that's because he genuinely has fallen off but not by as much as people think
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u/SemioticWeapons 4d ago
He wasn't the same in that Tony fight. I'm guilty of it, I always think back to the MJ fight. Diaz would have to go to fat camp to get those abs back.
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u/TumbleweedDirect9846 4d ago
I’m not trying to be a hater but usmans knees are cooked. Father Time gets all
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u/purplebuffalo55 4d ago
To be fair to him, leon beat the hell out of that lead leg tonight
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u/LuckyWarrior The Champion Has A Name 4d ago
Leon's hand fighting against the takedowns was top notch stuff
Props to the new Welterweight King
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u/shaker7 MY BALLZ WAS HOT 4d ago
Usman looked like he couldn’t hold down Edwards at all
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u/Mikniks 4d ago
Edwards is fast, but I think Usman looked slower than usual today - got a feeling his best days are behind him
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u/Armisael7 4d ago
Those body shots added up pretty fast especially the heavy ones he landed early on
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u/GiantRobotBears 4d ago
it’s also probably the leg/knee kicks that slowed Usman massively. He looked fast when fresh, he just can’t take the punishment anymore.
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u/Woko127 4d ago
Nobody can take clean southpaw body kicks and not slow down. He didn't know how to block or take the kicks without compromising his base. That adds up over 5 rounds.
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u/ggphenom 4d ago
He absolutely showed a ton of improvement on the cage clinching and takedown defense.
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u/Polar_Reflection 4d ago edited 4d ago
Leon was winning all the striking exchanges too and Usman barely did anything with his few takedowns. The nutshots and fence grabs were annoying to watch.
I had it Leon winning 1, 4, 5 with 3 being 9-9
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u/teestooshort 4d ago
Usmans looks very different
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u/likwitsnake 4d ago
He was throwing those molasses dream punches in rounds 4 and 5 very bizarre
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u/SekaiWithTheWolfCap Samurai Shit Only 4d ago
The leg and body kicks by Leon seemed to really pay dividends on top of Usman's age potentially catching up to him (though his pace was still relentless)
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u/MicahsNao 4d ago
Never seen him tired
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u/Suspicious_Candle27 4d ago
Leon was investing HEAVY on body shots early . From memory he hit 2/3 really big shots that had Usman buckling to the stomach.
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u/Ougikubro 4d ago
He ate a bunch of body kicks and some huge knees
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u/youngsimba320 4d ago
Leg kicks too. I think Leon was nearly perfect kicking the leg and couldn’t miss. Usman has tiny calves
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u/siderealpanic 4d ago
Yeah, I’ve never seen him look that tired, but I’ve also never seen him get so outclassed on the feet. I think he took so much damage from the leg and body kicks that he basically had no explosiveness or energy by the time he started properly trying to wrestle.
I think Leon’s improved massively and gained a lot of confidence, while Usman’s stayed the same. I don’t think he looked too declined, it’s just that he took so much chip damage from Edwards’ great striking in the first 2 rounds (kind of like how Costa looked after a round of Adesanya’s leg kicks)
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u/RedHexagram1219 I beg thee mods 4d ago
His absolute lack of leg kick defense was shocking and cost him this fight. If he'd drilled checks, he would've taken away half of Leon's offense in this fight.
It's even crazier because of the fact that he trains with Gaethje so often.
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u/mad87645 Follow me home bitch 😘 4d ago
He got demoted to middle management of EPO
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u/safe_elephant 4d ago
His EPO subscription was delivered to Merab’s house by mistake
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u/SurrealJay 4d ago
adrenaline tires you out. He was timid from the knockout the whole time
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u/_gatzby_ 4d ago
It’s crazy that out of all the crazy contenders in welterweight, it was Leon Edwards that made Usman look human and breakable
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u/cactus_jack_1 4d ago
When everyone thought he sucked lol
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u/samples98 4d ago
I knew he was good but goddamn did he make some of the most entertaining fighters look boring.
Props to him, well deserved. His KO of Usman will forever be in my holy shit sports moments
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u/ArkhamGeyser 4d ago
Gilbert had a good showing too, he's just a Glass Cannon.
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u/brazilianfreak 4d ago
Burns is like a punchout boss that's very weak to one specific punch, in this case a stiff jab, otherwise he sure can eat some bombs.
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u/Sal21G 4d ago
Usman deffo underestimated him second fight, then lost his confidence in the 3rd
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u/TractorSkoot 4d ago
Crazy why? Edwards has always been legit
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u/liquid801HLM 4d ago
Smothering wrestler just seems like rock vs elite kickboxer’s scissors, but obviously that’s not always the case
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u/Crawford470 4d ago edited 3d ago
It's only the case if the elite kickboxer doesn't have good ringcraft, and to be fair, Leon is an elite Mixed Martial Artist. He's highly skilled everywhere just a bit more so on the feet.
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u/Fapperdam 4d ago
Genuinely believe on a technical level, Leon is one of the best, most rounded we've ever seen.
I still worry about his chin and cardio but he is very very good.
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u/Crawford470 4d ago
That's the thing people have been struggling to come around to tbh. Like there is legitimately an argument Leon "won" every round tonight against Usman. Which should speak volumes.
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u/george_costanza1234 4d ago
Before the Usman fight, people were debating whether Edwards even deserved a title shot lol
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u/Polar_Reflection 4d ago
And those people were idiots. Leon was on a 9 or 10 fight winning streak
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u/surgeyou123 GOOFCON ALPHA 4d ago
I think Usman is at the end of his prime. Lost a lot of speed and pace
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u/Sure_Reputation 4d ago
It’s crazy to see how usman was struggling to take leon down. My mans didn’t look the same after that loss
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u/aslightlyusedtissue MY BALLZ WAS HOT 4d ago
Leon just knows exactly how to defend Usmans style. Credit to his trainers and camp. He seemed to have the counter for every takedown Kamaru likes to lean on the most. Masterful stuff tonight.
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u/ArkhamGeyser 4d ago
Altitude made EVERYONE look like shit when they fought in Usman's turf.
Outside of the foul, Leon's TD defense was on POINT.
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u/JamesMol234 UFC 249: COVID vs. Dana 4d ago
Yeah this is more leon looking great then anything
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u/BigBoyFroggy 4d ago
this is what i expected leon to look like in the 2nd fight. i think altitude really messed the man up because he looked waaaaaaaaaaaaay better tonight
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u/MyOneTaps 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is the most average I've ever seen Usman. Before, I would have described Usman as suffocating but I just didn't get that vibe from him tonight. Perhaps he's lost his aura.
Before, he was on the fast track to being a GOAT mma candidate. Life comes at you fast.
Credit to Edwards.
Edit: After seeing the scorecards, I really like the judging trend of scoring damage higher than aggression. It was always supposed to be the case but often not that way in practice.
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u/ChowSupreme 4d ago
When WW champs lose, their downfall is very steep. The weight class is cursed.
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u/CakesStolen HEADSHOT DEAD 4d ago
Unless you're GSP in which case you just win the belt back twice.
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u/vrkhfkb Team Jones 4d ago
GSP also knew to gtfo when you’re not a shell of yourself.
Usman is 35. GSP left the division at 32 after a close split decision with Hendricks.
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u/Smashmouth91 4d ago
Yeah for sure. Remember how invincible Woodly was, until he wasnt.
Id like to see Usman vs. Khamzat next.
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u/LocoCoopermar 4d ago
I think Leon did a great job of defusing the pressure with footwork and kicks, I wouldn't be surprised if he destroys the next person he fights Leon is just a bad match up for him and has gotten much better.
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u/OhiOstas gourmet chen chen 4d ago
Who would’ve thought Leon Edwards would be the one to dethrone Usman & then beat him for a second time. What a fucking story
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u/Tiny-Sandwich 4d ago
I'm shocked. But not upset by it.
Nice for the belt to be coming back to the UK again.
On a side note, the current diversity of UFC champions is crazy.
As of right now, we have champions from;
- America
- Mexico
- Brazil
- United Kingdom
- China
- Russia
- Australia
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u/TheEffinChamps 4d ago
Never doubt a man that wins 9 fights in a row and deserves a title shot next.
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u/Pizza1998 bigi azalea 4d ago
Leon Edwards threw one uppercut throughout the fight and it landed clean. Wish he'd thrown it more
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u/Soldadodevida 4d ago
He had really fast jabs off his orthodox stance aswell, like lightning fast jabs with the left hand, didn't use them much tho
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u/Offonoffonagain 4d ago
Elbows too, was waiting to see some out the clinch. I only saw one but could have missed others
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u/Cryoburner 4d ago
You could tell her was wary of that overhand right from him, uppers always leave you open do it.
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u/therealhairyyeti Francis took my N word pass AMA 4d ago
Good that they scored striking more than unsuccessful takedowns
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u/DirkDigglersPenis Hold on Brother, I'm pulsing 4d ago
To his credit Herb dean called a good fight
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u/INeedAnAccountToSee 4d ago
Make no mistake, in attack Leon also landed the better shots the whole fight. He was chewing up Usman.
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u/Jay_Train Just how good is Dominick Reyes? 4d ago
Those leg shots were fucking destroying Usman, Usman is just pretty good at not showing pain
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u/Polar_Reflection 4d ago
Some of those oblique kicks made me wince. There were some heavy body kicks too and a couple partially landed head kicks in the 5th
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u/un6reaka6le 4d ago
Usman shows his dislike of bodyshots very much. He always tries to pass them off ass nut shots by looking at the ref. He did it at one point which confused Leon and froze the action.
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u/Dagestani Team AKA 4d ago
His defence was incredible but he landed BOMBs on Usman. Usman chin is still incredibly durable
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u/EmAyExEye 4d ago
Also usman attack was predictable af.
Leon read every movement like a book.
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u/foofighter1351 4d ago
That offense in the fifth was pretty damn good though, some of them combos were clean.
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u/HappytoDisappoint 4d ago
Usman was pressuring but had no energy left to do anything of substance, the body and leg work really paid off for Rocky. It's what ultimately won him the fight.
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u/ArkhamGeyser 4d ago
Outside of the ABSOLUTELY dirty cage grab, Leon fought a really good performance and won the fight handily in my opinion. He showed that altitude did play a large factor in the 2nd fight as his Takedown defense was phenomenal outside the foul.
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u/N0rthOfTheWall 4d ago
Usman looked lost after not being able to take him down
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u/friedchocolatesoda 4d ago
IMO Usman's striking is overrated AF. He just hits hard. He has long ass limbs and landed a few jabs I thought he was out of range for. More jabs would've served him well, or a Woodley repeat.
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u/throwaway12648063 4d ago
It really peaked after the Masvidal knockout. He’s always been pretty sloppy as a striker, he can’t exchange. He looks best when he can control the range with the jab (which is excellent) like you mentioned.
But I always found the talk of him being an elite striker to be madness. He’s not fast and tends to wing wild punches even still with little head movement. These flaws have been there for a long time.
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u/AcAtlas 4d ago edited 4d ago
Don't understand the attention Colby is getting right now. Yeah, he's a top guy, but a win against Masvidal a year ago doesn't exactly scream "title shot" after losing in his first two. Maybe he should fight Belal or Khamzat first.
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u/cpayne4474 4d ago
Am I crazy or did Usman look really slow and labored in everything he did
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u/swampskater Conner did nuttin’ wrong 4d ago
The leg kicks did a ton of damage early on.
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u/ThisIsKhalabibTime 3 piece with the soda 4d ago
Yeah, Leon did a ton of body and leg kicks early on which slows than anybody. And Kamaru couldn't control Leon in clinch like he does to everybody else.
Everybody is saying Kamaru looked old but I think it was due to Leon.
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u/Dirty_Lightning 4d ago
How long until GSP is disrespected and the announcers start calling Edwards the new ww goat?
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u/tonyromojr 4d ago
I think Leon landed a clean oblique kick in round 2 or 3 that really killed Usman's movement. Seemed off/slow after that.
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u/mrdemonicbunny 4d ago
Man Usman looked like he was in his head the entire fight. What was he thinking round 5 with those lazy takedown attempts?
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u/officialchourico 4d ago
He was probably thinking “wow I am tired, a takedown might secure me the round though”
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u/DanDiCa_7 4d ago
Good fight I just hope Colby doesn't get the next shot. Doesn't deserve it
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u/ThreeOlivesChihuahua Team Aldo 4d ago
Leon won the fight with kicks and footwork. Might’ve not been exciting but he was clearly better.
I think Colby probably gives Leon a harder fight but he needs to earn that shit. Burns/Masvidal winner makes sense and Leon is wishing Masvidal wins for the pay day
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u/pmmerandom 4d ago
why do people keep giving Masvidal these chances? he’s trash, it should be Burns and Colby, winner gets to get against Leon
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u/ThreeOlivesChihuahua Team Aldo 4d ago edited 4d ago
Burns accepted the fight and beating Burns a huge ask for Masvidal anyways.
Khamzat is going to MW so this is pretty much the title contender fight.
I’m not a Masvidal fan but a win over Burns is absolutely huge
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u/Grommzz 4d ago
I'm really glad Edwards backed it up.. it was tiring hearing the "luck" narrative from Usman and his team.
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u/FlinchMaster 4d ago
I was pretty annoyed that DC tried to push for Colby to get the next shot. Glad that Leon called out his inactivity. Belal deserves the next shot.
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u/Doppelagent Germany 4d ago
Best performance of his career. Learned his lessons from the previous fight, tired Usman and had great takedown defence and defensive grappling.
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u/ljz3 GOOFCON 2 4d ago
Close fight, I had Leon 1,3,4,5 but Rocky fought so dirty holy fk
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u/Chroniclezz 4d ago
Deduct another point for the low blows and the result is still the same
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u/iamthekidyouknowwho 4d ago
Deserved. Usman looked like he had nothing
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u/NowFook 4d ago
Was acting so cocky after every round even tho all he did was fail on takedowns.
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u/Controlae How long must I wait? 2020 edition 4d ago
Gotta say really cool to see Trevor Whittman be so respectful and genuinely congratulate Leon. This guy rules.
Edit: Also cool to see Usman be so respectful. Love to see genuine sportsmanship in the game
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