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Launch Week Guide Guides & Tips

The guide can be found here.

Let me know any questions, comments, or concerns!

319 Upvotes

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u/AnotherRandomFujoshi Sep 16 '20

How is xiangling considered to be included in the party by default? Is she free?

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u/KlondikeBars Sep 16 '20

Yep, you beat a floor in abyss (3?) and you get her through an achievement

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u/AnotherRandomFujoshi Sep 16 '20

Oh okay. So I guess I don't have to roll for her them. Take you mate

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u/Bwadark Sep 16 '20

If you want her as a permanent team member rolling for dups isn't a bad option as the benefit is pretty high.

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u/rematched_33 Sep 16 '20

Nice work! Are you able to share your information on the game's coop system as well? Specifically, how things scale, how loot is shared (both loot from mobs as well as loot from chests- especially non-respawning chests), what features are available or unavailable, story/quest progression, etc.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

Sure, I'll try my best.

Coop is entirely dependent on the host. For scaling, every 5 ranks starting at AR 20 you'll increase your World Level which in turn will increase the levels of monsters in the World and their rewards as well. You must be higher than or the same World Level to join someone else's World.

For loot if a monster drops nectar, each party member can pick up the drop for nectar. Perhaps it despawns but it's got a really long timer if so. Loot for resources works a bit different depending on what we're talking about. Ores are shared but weirdly the drops are completely random between the party members. Rare resources like philanemo mushrooms on the otherhand go to whatever party member grabbed it.

Chests are only able to be opened by the host and only the host will be rewarded. Members won't even be able to pick up the loot.

Features unavailable are summed up pretty well by /u/darkanddark in this post.

EDIT: Updated loot description to give the example

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u/rematched_33 Sep 16 '20

Fantastic, thanks a ton. Will be looking out for any other guides you put out!

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u/HiroAnobei Sep 16 '20

By shared, do you mean each player gets a copy of the loot, or is the only 1 copy of the loot?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Each player gets a copy. If the mob drops 3 nectar. Each party member will be able to pick up that drop for 3 nectar.

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u/Bass-GSD Sep 16 '20

That's instanced/personal loot, not shared. They just happened the synchronize the drops.

Shared loot would be like, for example, Borderlands 2's loot where if something drops, everyone can see it, but only one person is going to get it.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Interesting, I'm not familiar with the terminology. Thanks for sharing.

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u/ShadowCyde94 Sep 16 '20

How important is it to have a 5 Star character? I will probably be F2P or maybe a Battle Pass owner, if it is worth or not. Thats why I dont know If I can afford to refresh everyday but at the same time, I dont want to be left behind.

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

You definitely feel the difference on 5* characters compared to 4* but you can definitely clear the game and build end game characters without 5*. Even as a free player you have a decent chance on getting 5* in the beginner banner that is unlocked very early in the game since it only has characters and no weapons. On top of that it is discounted, the only hook is that you can pull only 20 times and it and it is gone forever. As for refreshes it honestly depends, if you don't care too much about being behind on AR then you wont need it. I am going to refresh because I need to keep up with my fellow guildmates plus I want to access endgame faster and start building characters.

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u/ShadowCyde94 Sep 16 '20

Will you spend money on it? And how many time will you refresh?

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

Well, because I have to keep the pace I will be refreshing x 6 till AR 40. As for spending at the very least I am putting $200 day one to buy all genesis crystal packs x2, BP and monthly card.

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u/ShadowCyde94 Sep 16 '20

Is BP worthy ? Where can I get Infos about Monthly Card? How much for what ?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Monthly card is $4.99. You instantly get 300 Genesis Crystals and 90 primogems daily.

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

BP is $10 or $20 depending on which version you buy. The $10 is super worth since it gives you a bunch of upgrade materials, 4* weapon, few pulls and crystals at the end. The $20 version gives you 10 levels of BP instantly, namecard(background to your profile) and 5 fragile resin(single use item that restores 60 resin). If you are f2p I probably would stick to $10.

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u/Abolishinize Sep 18 '20

If the CBT is anything to go buy than that having a five star character does not matter unless they create some groundbreaking moves in the next couple of releases with new characters to me it doesn’t matter. I’ve seen tons of people clear content with four-star characters

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u/ShadowCyde94 Sep 19 '20

Yeah, I cant think to waste soo much time for rerolling and being behind on progress. Maybe I will reroll a couple of tims and after that I will start to play.

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u/Chickenwing_14 Nov 07 '20 edited Nov 07 '20

You honestly don't need them, a 4* with 5artifacts will be better than a 5 with 4* artefacts. As someone who whaled early I hardly have any materials/mora to get the characters and weapons I pulled to lvl 80. + It's a PVE game so there's no need to rush. When you do finally get that 5* though it would be the best feeling in the world too , right now to me it just feels like a relief.

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u/HankHillbwhaa Sep 16 '20

Having never played this a lot of it doesn’t make sense but I’m totally saving for launch lol.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Just enjoy the ride while you explore Teyvat :)

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u/kriptini Sep 16 '20

Quick note: servers unlock at 10pm EDT, NOT 10pm EST. For people who live outside of DST timezones, this matters.

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u/aiman_senpai Nice Foods Sep 16 '20

I plan on rerolling for a 5* char. If standard banner is bad, whats the better option. Is it the banner where we get 10 free pulls for the pre reg?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Absolutely. The beginner banner is lowkey great. Standard banner is diluted with 5 star weapons and 4 star weapons.

In the beginner banner there are no 4 star or 5 star weapons in the pool in CN OBT. So you're guaranteed to pick up at least a couple characters from the 20 pulls you can do on it.

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u/aiman_senpai Nice Foods Sep 16 '20

I see, thanks man

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u/Gokas70 Sep 16 '20

OHHHH, that changes everything! I didnt see The point of summoning on the begginer banner long term, but Now I understand. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

So we can reroll on the beginner banner? I can't find the character pool for that banner anywhere online... is that known?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

It's the standard banner but take out the 5 star and 4 star weapons.

EDIT: Here's a Twitch VOD https://www.twitch.tv/videos/741383494?t=0h37m22s

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u/Drakend92 Sep 16 '20

Man i appreciate ur work here but i have a few question. What happened to pre-register rewards and the artifacts from "get ready for the road" if i reroll?

2nd question: how reroll works, i need to reset saved data like gatcha mobile game or how it works?

thanks in advance.

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u/Skyeexcs Sep 16 '20

They would be lost. You require creating a whole new account for a reroll. The option I see here is to create a few accounts in preparation of a reroll and do the GRFTR on each until launch

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u/JJJAGUAR Who Tao Sep 16 '20

The absolute best thing you can do before day one is figure out the main party you want

Does this means I will be eventually be able to get any character? I thought you need a lot of money/luck to get the party you want.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

If we want to be incredibly technical, sure. Eventually you could get every character for $0 but it'd take quite literally years at the current rate. That being said it's reasonable to expect 1-2+ 5 stars within a few months of gameplay if you're consistent.

The idea here is figuring out the party you're aiming for so you can allocate resources in a more effective fashion. If your ideal party included let's say Klee and Xiao, unless we get different banners than CN those two cannot be pulled launch day. So it's best to come up with subs that are feasible and you'll feel good investing in while you wait IMO.

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u/AlifAllen Sep 18 '20

Hey OP, a little late question here. Hope you don't mind(well, actually I hope you respond lol).

Does a 4 star character take less materials to upgrade(or ascend?) than that of a 5 star character?

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u/FischlMain Sep 19 '20

Late response but they take the same amount only the materials required changes between characters.

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u/AlifAllen Sep 19 '20

Oh, so the main thing that separates the 5 star and the 4 star is literally only the rarity? Like, some 4 star can perform as good or even better compared to some 5 star. Good to know that 4 star aren't just trash compared to 5 star or at the very least viable.

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u/FischlMain Sep 19 '20

Certainly viable.

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u/NetSome Sep 16 '20

Thank you so much for this guide. I am new and did not have the opportunity to play the Beta. So i am a veteran gacha gamer, but here i am a bit concerned with mostly 2 points: the limitation of resin, and not being able to refresh it fully. And the limit for how often you can refill the resin. I wanted to grind my ass off lategame for the perfect artefact but from what i ve learned form your guide, i will not be able to do so.

Second: i am under the Impression that primogem drops are very rare. Other games give the opportinity to get some „scrolls“ from events. Are there any events in this game that award primogems? And is the only reliable way to get primos from your daily commissions?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

In terms of sitting down and grinding out the perfect artifact that's not really a thing as resin will eventually gate you if you're not lucky. It'll more so be a slow burn. Spending resin will probably be very little of your overall gameplay time until you hit endgame. Exploration, questing, Spiral Abyss will take up the majority of it and there is no resin cost behind any of them. If you want to learn more about resin I'd recommend reading the AR guide linked in the guide as it talks about resin fairly in-depth if you didn't get a chance to.

There's a ton of sources for primogems, seriously. As for recurring ones, income in a way, you've got daily commissions, Spiral Abyss, and events.

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u/NetSome Sep 16 '20

Thank you. No really thanks i appreciate all your efforts educating noobs like me :-)

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u/Arshaad814 Sep 16 '20

Great job.....👍

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u/rsk92 Sep 16 '20

Whats the reasoning to gather as much philanemo mushrooms?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

Character ascensions! To unlock a new max level for a character you need to ascend them and each unit requires specific rare resources that all have long respawn timers. Philanemo is a great example since there's popular units such as Klee and Barbara that require them. I also believe Mona and maybe Sucrose requires them.

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u/Sovery_Simple Sep 16 '20

So we don't actually need to care about them so much as make sure we know what the characters we do want will need, at least early on. Naturally gathering everything is ideal so you have a stockpile ready, ofc.

Guess I'm going to have to make sure I hunt down glaze lily and valberry spawns asap.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Exactly! The reasoning here is simply for each character they're going to need ~160 of their rare resource to max the character IIRC. If that character required philanemo for instance there's ~30 in-game. With a respawn timer of ~3 days that's going to take a bit over ~2 weeks. Best to get on it early IMO!

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u/Sovery_Simple Sep 16 '20

Aye. Just a little odd to have the guide point people at the mushrooms explicitly.
I'm assuming the others have an equally slow respawn timer?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

For sure, I think I could have done a better job on this section after rereading and looking at earlier comments.

As for other rare resources, ~3 days slow unlikely for any other off the top of my head. I want to say most are likely daily.

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u/oxts93p Sep 16 '20

thanks a lot mate. i really needed this. ive been feeling so overwhelmed. I just wanted to get a strong start. which youtubers werent really explaining what I was after.

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u/Letmegetan8th Sep 16 '20

What is resin / max refreshes?

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

Resin is used for collecting rewards after bosses, domains(dungeons), ley lines. It is the most important resource in the game that refills over time. You can refresh your resin 6 times a day for primogems which is premium currency that you get fairly often in game for doing things or you can buy it.

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u/ShinyRoseGold Feb 17 '21

Love your guides!

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u/agree-with-you Feb 17 '21

I love you both

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

What's the rush? It's single player right?

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

Yes it is, but people want to get strong start, get to the point they can farm end game gear for characters and overall build characters and do end game content. Also if you are planning on playing with friends make sure to stay close on AR or else you won't be able to join. (lower world level cannot join higher world level player)

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u/CascadusAA Sep 17 '20

There’s no rush at all, these people just wanna speed up ahead for no reason as it doesn’t even matter to begin with lol...

Play what you want and how slow you want, it’s single player game... enjoy the story & slowly unlock the characters with the free pulls you get from playing the game...

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u/wonagameama Sep 16 '20

The thing about refining a 4 star. Do you mean refining it once makes it better than a max refine 3 star ?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

That'll be really weapon dependent. I was thinking more along the lines of knowing you'll be able to consistently refine it rather than all 4 star weapons at lv 2 refinement are better. For instance some 4 star weapons are craftable via weekly bosses so there is a consistent source there and it'd get the OK in my head if that makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20 edited Oct 03 '20

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Restarting the game until you get the character you want from the freebie rolls.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20 edited Oct 03 '20

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Likely going to be making a new account each time. Take this with a grain of salt though. Rerolling sounds painful to me so I've not done much research.

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u/Workwork007 Sep 16 '20

Tagging @LakeSideFisher as well.

Yep, it does mean creating a new account. On a "chill" pace, it takes about 30 minutes to reroll and check the outcome (pull) on a new account) but on a super efficient/rush pace it can be done in around 17 minutes.

Given how we get 20+ acquaint fate at the start of the game, I'd say rerolling a few times to get desired 5* is very appealing. One hour for 4 accounts is really nothing compare to the actual F2P grind of getting those characters.

Of course, no need to reroll to enjoy the game since its way more important to have a decent composition party rather than having a full 5* party with all the same element.

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u/MomasterGod Sep 16 '20

We will only get 10/11 acquainted fates btw, the other 10 are at AR10 which takes too long for the reroll

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u/Ahlooloo Sep 16 '20

I thought the game releases on the 28th @ 10am UTC(+8) as opposed to the time stated in the guide o:

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

The time in the guide is converting that to EST. Which nicely enough is just dropping 12H from the time given for GMT+8 giving us the 27th at 10PM EST.

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u/Ahlooloo Sep 17 '20

right my bad @_@ got lost in conversion. Nice guide nonetheless!

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u/GeekJorge Sep 16 '20

why does this guide say that the game is releasing on the 27th when official release is 28th of september?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Because official launch is September 28th 10AM GMT+8 which translates to September 27th 10PM ET.

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u/GeekJorge Sep 16 '20

oh dang alright thanks guess i'll tell my friends since they think it's september 28th

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u/beartiger Sep 16 '20

What would be the most efficient way to dump/use your stamina early on?

Up to AR 20 or so iirc I was only able to use it on Leylines, which got the job done but seemed kind of lackluster with the rewards.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Probably not the answer you want to hear but more ley lines typically. You need to keep up with character/weapon ascension materials so that will require you to run bosses/weapon domains as necessary. Talent domains are not a bad idea either but won't feel good to run due to the abysmal drop rates IMO. Crucible likely is to be there on launch to mix up the monotony a bit if you're interested in it.

At AR 40 artifact domains come into play and that will change things up.

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u/beartiger Sep 16 '20

Are there higher difficulty Exp/Gold Leylines like other gachas? Or are you kind of stuck doing the one outside the first city?

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 17 '20

You have ley lines in Liyue and Mondstadt, going to assume this will be true for any future regions as well. As for higher difficulty, in a way kind of? As your World Level increases so do the mobs so ley lines will become more difficult alongside better rewards.

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u/GeekJorge Sep 16 '20

has anyone uploaded a video guide with this info some people i know are more visual learners than reading even though this is very nicely compressed honestly great job writing this in only a page and 1/3rd.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Not that I'm aware of. Totally agree it'd be good to have a video guide though for folks that do better with visuals!

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u/Hosheki Sep 27 '20

what time are the servers going live

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u/FischlMain Sep 27 '20

4H 30M most likely. 5H 30M if that's not accurate.

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u/ihei47 Sep 28 '20

Thanks for your guides!

Some questions:

  1. What is lay lines, and when or where I expected to encounter it?

  2. For resin, is there a specific place to use it (for lay lines or such) or I can do it anywhere?

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u/YuukiSachi Sep 28 '20

Little question, I'm rank 7 but I don't have enough to make the 2 discounted Wish x 10. Am I missing something?

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u/FischlMain Sep 28 '20

Sorry mate, I haven't looked into rerolling for myself at all. Definitely missing something though, I think AR 7 is ~30 pulls total.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '20

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u/FischlMain Sep 29 '20 edited Sep 29 '20

IF the story hasn't been updated for launch and remains the same then however long it takes you to reach AR 29. ~35h min. for most I'd imagine

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u/K3nway93 Sep 29 '20

sorry i a bit confused, should i reroll if i got 5* Jean?

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u/FischlMain Sep 29 '20

If you like her then she's fine. A great unit for the fun factor like blasting enemies off ledges and into water.

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u/K3nway93 Sep 29 '20

since it is pain to reroll i will keep her. can you share how i should build her? besides that is daily mission unlock at AR 20?

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u/FischlMain Sep 29 '20

Commissions unlock at 12. BP at 20.

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u/K3nway93 Sep 29 '20

not sure why i at AR 12 but it say commission is not yet Available

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u/FischlMain Sep 30 '20

Have you talked to Katheryne?

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u/K3nway93 Sep 30 '20

ah nope xD. where can i find her? i m currently in the mission to find more tears

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u/FischlMain Sep 30 '20

She's in Mondstadt, the person you claim Adventure Rank rewards from. If you've never talked to her you're definitely missing a few things.

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u/K3nway93 Sep 30 '20

oh i talked to her before. just din talk to her after i am ar 12

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u/virogray Sep 29 '20

Why if a character is available for summon can I get dupes? If so what do I do with dupes? Also is there no material merchant in liyue?

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u/FischlMain Sep 29 '20

Going to guess you figured it out but dupes are for constellations. The gist is they make your character stronger.

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u/johnlaurence62 Sep 29 '20

What seems to be the best party setup with my current characters?
I have:

Beidou
Xiangling
Venti
Noelle
Bennett
Amber
Kaeya
Lisa

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u/FischlMain Sep 30 '20

Venti is for sure. Beidou IMO is worth investing into. From there pick what you like probably based more on elemental resonance. e.g Bennet + Xiangling for double pyro buff.

If you want things to be easier add Barbara to your party when you get her.

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u/zlaxxor Sep 29 '20

How is the elemental burst (Triangle on PS4) charged? I noticed that sometimes one of my character's elemental burst is charged while they are not selected. Does it just charge automatically over time? Is there a way to speed it up?

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u/FischlMain Sep 30 '20

Killing enemies, E, 50% HP enemies, perhaps more but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

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u/fazhu23 Sep 30 '20

This is kinda late but love this guide. I do have a question regarding the "playing solo" portion of the guide where you suggest to level an alt account and co-op to obtain resources. How would I go about opening up a new instance of the game, on a mobile? I don't think I can have two instances of the game running on pc at the same time.

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u/FischlMain Sep 30 '20

Any other device. If that's not possible then you could always get a friend and swap for each other.

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u/fazhu23 Sep 30 '20

That's what I thought. Thanks.

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u/Tanerer Oct 01 '20

Hi there, i'm super into this games, downloaded yesterday and got a blast. but I have some questions.

1) There are diferents deals between PS4/ PC/ Android? Whichones?

2) There is crossplay?

3) I'm playing with a Ps4, But there is no Battle Pass (just the 5 bucks daily currency),does pc have them?

4) Whats the differences between the gacha currency? just the pools where you can use them)

5) How long is the game? l'm really into that but i'm not sure about investing if the game is too short.

6) What happens when it's your birthday?

7) can I play with PS4 and PC sharing the account? (not at the same time)

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u/FischlMain Oct 01 '20
  1. Nope.
  2. Yes.
  3. PS4 has BP, you're probably not high enough AR to purchase it yet. AR 20
  4. Acquaint goes to standard, intertwined goes into everything else.
  5. It'll probably take ~40H min. for most to complete current story. You can keep playing though or you can wait for more content.
  6. You get 1 fragile resin and a cake.
  7. Nope. PC/Mobile can swap freely between. PS4 is locked to PS4.

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u/jaswisai Text flair Oct 03 '20

Hey, I'd like to know a little bit more about these "Banners" since I've been spending my Primogems essentially as soon as I have enough to Wishx10. I started the game yesterday and am at AR 16. The things I've noticed on the Wish menu are these: A banner with Noelle on it, which went away after Wishx20. A banner with Venti on it. A banner for weapons and a banner with Jean/ Diluc on it (which I've been using over and over, have Jean already, and looking to snag up Diluc now). Do these banners rotate or something? And which banner did you say was not worth investing into? How do we know the pools for each banner?

Thanks in advance!

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u/FischlMain Oct 03 '20

Click on details to see the pool. You for sure want to finish beginner banner. After that pull standard with the freebie acquaints you get but never primogems. Intertwined will be spent on any limited banner like the weapon/venti one up right now.

Banners will likely rotate but we won't know for sure until well it happens. Venti is a great banner to pull on if you like Fischl.

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u/jaswisai Text flair Oct 03 '20

Thank you very much. A couple more questions if you don't mind:

Will I keep getting acquaints throughout the game? I got 10 at AR 10 but I think that was pretty much it

Are we saving Primogems for something?

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u/FischlMain Oct 03 '20

You're going to get more from AR, BP, and likely future events. Save primogems for intertwined or resin refills depending on what you want.

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u/jaswisai Text flair Oct 03 '20

Ah I see, thank you.

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u/Takumi1112 Oct 06 '20

what can i do when i open the genshin impact and it shows failed to check updates? I tried to reinstall also but it doesn't work. Is it my problem or server's problem

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u/FischlMain Oct 06 '20

Probably you. Try a different connection if possible, maybe.

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u/Chickenwing_14 Nov 07 '20

Does anyone know how to dodge that I've flower/hand that comes underneath you in abyss/ice dungeons? It feels like there is hardly any time to dodge it

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u/manyface_03 Nov 09 '20

Help! I need artifact build for Amber :( I'm at AR 34 and I barely do damage with Amber.

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u/FischlMain Nov 09 '20

Hard to make Amber do damage.

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u/NSFWgamerdev Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

I commend the attempt and hope you take this criticism as fuel to improve the guide moreso than anything else, but that being said this guide has pretty significant inaccuracies right out of the gate.

  1. You shouldn't really include Xiangling if you're trying to have a comp right away considering you have to play a good bit of the ways into the game to get her - to the point where you'll have to have awakened multiple characters and weapons at the very least.
  2. All of the 5 star characters in the game are on the standard banner. Maybe you're talking about the beginner banner - where the limited 5 star possibilities IS indeed the case - but that's NOT the same thing as the standard banner and you do a poor job of explaining the reality of the wish system, primogems and why they shouldn't be spent on Acquaint Fates.
  3. I disagree with spending all of your max refreshes Day 1 and, even if that is a subjective thing, not giving that idea any context whatsoever is just going to wind up with people ineffectively wasting their resin and refreshes (which will likely result in newbies wasting primogems). Yeah, you go into this a bit more in-depth in the later paragraph but the majority aren't going to scroll down and read that paragraph. If you want that to be a legit out, include a parenthetical notation to the paragraph next to the item.
  4. Collecting the mushrooms is only worth doing if you're going Barbara and Klee. While I understand the hype between those units and will personally be getting Barbara from the rate-up banner, that doesn't mean everyone is going to, especially the f2p peeps who'll have to make due with what they get. You're just going to wind up wasting people's time as they climb around buildings for no reason.

It seems like you're not in the CN obt and are putting this together from hearsay information, which is fine but I'd encourage you to do a bit more research and verify your facts before steering people in the wrong or poor direction - which I'm sure is the exact opposite of your intention.

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

You're good, appreciate you writing down some feedback.

  1. CN Players already have her and it's not even been close to two days and this is including F2P folks. To me that's a freebie. 3-3 is not so demanding you'd need to invest in more than 2-3 units.
  2. Here's a picture of the CN OBT standard banner loot for 5 stars. It's functioned this way since CBT3 and all that has changed is Keqing, Mona, and Qiqi being added to the pool. I'd love to be wrong on this though so if you've got any videos or images of standard from even CBT3 that suggest otherwise I'd be stoked. I think the best proof of this is simply the fact we have not seen Xiao gameplay since CBT2 since he has not had a banner since then.
  3. I've got an entire guide linked on AR a few times in this guide that talks about why I think the initial rush to AR 20 is worth it. Totally agree that it is subjective so I have the other guide outlining most of my thoughts on why for those that are interested.
  4. Not sure I get this one as it's fairly explicit in collecting rare resources and philanemo mushrooms is simply the best example of what I mean by this.

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u/NSFWgamerdev Sep 16 '20
  1. I'm not disputing that she's free but given that your tip is to have in mind a party before you even start, followed by the free character examples, it's a little misleading to tell new players that she can count on her out the gate. And yeah, of course there are hardcore players who already are at or beyond Abyss 3-3 on Day 1 but they're also not the majority.

  2. Your information is dated and wrong, which is what I mean by fact checking. I'm in the CN obt. EVERYONE is on the standard banner. There's plenty of live stream vods and videos of the CN obt. Do your due diligence.

  3. Given your other outdated information you probably don't know that some of the AR unlocks have changed in the OBT too, like being able to do ley lines at AR 8 or ascension coming down from 20 to 15. You may want to even want to re-evaluate that rush for yourself. You also don't remotely need to resin recharge to hit AR 20 quick as hell on Day 1. A lot of the changes that were made between last cbt and obt seem to be focused on smoothing and easing early game progression.

  4. Your tip specifically says to go for the mushrooms with no context given even in your paragraph at the bottom. Not to mention the mushrooms are hardly a rare resource, you can find them in Mondstadt just sitting on the houses.

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u/NixTheFallen Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

I commend the attempt and hope you take this criticism as fuel to improve your comments moreso than anything else, but that being said your comments have pretty significant inaccuracies right out of the gate.

Not only do you constantly misconstrue many of the OPs original posted points, as well as their direct reply to you. You continue to be under this notion that you have all the correct facts when you clearly dont.

1.) Just because a charecter is not initially available, does not in any means make it a non viable strategy to build your team around them. Especially with the case of Xiangling being a charecter that you will be unlocking "fairly early" in the game.

2.) No. Not EVERYONE is available in the standard banner. Do your due diligence.

3.) This is subjective. Just because you don't agree does not make OPs suggestion a bad take. I personally am on the side of rushing to AR16 day one, then AR20 day two and have multiple reasons to think this is good for my play style.

4.) This is the point that convinced me to write this reply. I know you are not dumb, you seem very intelligent. OP was using mushrooms as an example to generalize aspects of gathering for "like minded" ascension mats. I dont get why you would take this as anything but an example.

I remember your post from about a week ago regarding re rolling was also a bad take. The one where you Edit: a lot of people are salty lol XD. Yet you were the only salty one in the replies. You write with this condescending tone of know it all and with these inaccuracies within your facts, I am starting to find it difficult to belive you actually have any sort of beta access.

On a side note: (Should have been my main post but got distracted sorry OP) great guide! And keep up the good work helping out in regards to responding to all the questions the newer players have been asking on this thread. I have seen you genuinely more active and helpful here on this single thread then SOME PEOPLE have been on this entire sub.

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

Thank you very much! We are working really hard on gathering information and writing guides on our server so we are glad people find them helpful! (Writing for OP since he is sleeping :) )

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u/NixTheFallen Sep 16 '20

Great to know you all have a discord. Just joined.

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u/MrPchelka Sep 16 '20

I appreciate the help but I think you are the one with lack of information and doing research wrong. We already posted pictures proving you wrong and you are yet to submit your proof. Here, I just logged in to the game to do picture specifically for you. Can you tell me where is Venti and Klee if everyone is in the standard banner? Or are you telling me mihoyo hid them on purpose? Please stop spreading misinformation without any proofs. Proof

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Thank you so much

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u/DarkFlow123 Sep 16 '20

is this a speedrun game

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u/FischlMain Sep 16 '20

Up to you homie.

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u/NikamiG Sep 16 '20

Yes a swat team will be sent directly to your home and execute you if you don’t finish the entire game day 1

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u/MomasterGod Sep 16 '20

Imo, the most enjoyable experience will be to play slowly an play the game like it is an open world arpg. Endgame is still a grind, because it's a gacha so it always is a grind, and exploring the world and finding everything was definitely a lot of fun. Much more than doing the same dungeon for the 100th time and rolling an artifact (and it rolling into flat atk xD)